ISIS and Afghan Taliban

[I of the Storm]

I don't think making allies is even part of ISIS' agenda. Since they declared themselves the caliphate, every muslim state who doesn't join them joyfully is ultimately an enemy.

So maybe it's popcorn time, maybe the Taliban will kind of crumble when their more fundamentalist factions switch sides.

Pretty f***ed up lately, even more so than a while ago, what with Turkey and their little war against the Kurds.
They could make it really difficult for ISIS but since they are enemies with the Kurds too, they rather not weaken them too much.

"drop the bomb, exterminate them all..." I often find myself remembering that line.

[Brenus]

"it seems that you either join them or you are an enemy." Hmmm, remind me someone... But who?

[Husar]

"it seems that you either join them or you are an enemy." Hmmm, remind me someone... But who?

Hitler?

[Tuuvi]

Didn't the Taliban once say that ISIS were too extreme for them?
I remember Jon Stewart joked about it.

Either way I'm not surprised that ISIS is pretty much incapable of having allies, it seems that you either join them or you are an enemy.

They've been fighting with the other Jihadist factions in Syria as well. It's interesting that they've been able to be so successful with so many enemies on all sides.

Pretty f***ed up lately, even more so than a while ago, what with Turkey and their little war against the Kurds.
They could make it really difficult for ISIS but since they are enemies with the Kurds too, they rather not weaken them too much.

The Syrian Kurds seem to be committed to establishing a democratic government and I really hope Turkey will leave the YPG alone but since they follow the same ideology as the PKK they probably won't. In fact it's been reported (but take it with a grain of salt) that Turkey has fired on the YPG while they were engaged with ISIS. The YPG also claims that three of its fighters were deported while in the middle of receiving medical treatment in Turkey and instead of being sent to the Kurdish controlled border crossing they were to deported to one controlled by Jihadists and taken prisoner.

Meanwhile Turkey has been accused of aiding ISIS by letting ISIS recruits freely cross the border into Syria and not really doing much to combat ISIS. I know the PKK are considered a terrorist organization and it's not all black and white but still I'd rather have libertarian socialists on my border than Islamic fascists. I guess Turkey disagrees.

[rory_20_uk]

The worst thing the West EVER did was to get directly involved in these psuedo-religious wars be that in Africa, the Middle East or Central Asia. We end us spending a fortune, everyone hates us and we get blamed for not creating a New Switzerland.

Left to their own devices they'll happily slaughter each other and even attract disaffected extremists from the West to go over as well.

Provide if anything low tech weaponry to whichever side is loosing and leave them to it. That the Taliban and ISIS are now killing each other is just another example of this which stretches over a large chunk of the countries where Islam is the dominant religion which is a religion of peace and tolerance of course.

[rajpoot]

The worst thing the West EVER did was to get directly involved in these psuedo-religious wars be that in Africa, the Middle East or Central Asia. We end us spending a fortune, everyone hates us and we get blamed for not creating a New Switzerland.

Left to their own devices they'll happily slaughter each other and even attract disaffected extremists from the West to go over as well.

Provide if anything low tech weaponry to whichever side is loosing and leave them to it. That the Taliban and ISIS are now killing each other is just another example of this which stretches over a large chunk of the countries where Islam is the dominant religion which is a religion of peace and tolerance of course.

Problem is that the West is already too involved to make a clean exit. If not directly through 'allies'. And some of those allies might be supporting one or the other or as it seems right now, both groups, with 'aid' they might well be getting from the West.

[Shaka_Khan]

Looks like another

[Furunculus]

well done, taliban.