IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

First of all, no, refugees are typically NOT in a warzone or they wouldn't be refugees. See, that is kind of what refugee MEANS... Get it?

There are most often refugee camps in secure zones in the country at war, and in surrounding countries...

So your point is to go to the refugees who go to these camps (and don't want to come here apparently) and offer them refugee status as well?
Okay, works for me.

I'm just not sure how that stops the ones who avoid those camps and try to get here. Oh right, turn around the boats. Who will turn around the boats?

Secondly, if we accept asylum seekers OF COURSE we also transport them, doh!! I in no way suggest that we would grant them asylum and then ask them to make their own way there. That would be retarded.

I never suggested otherwise, I asked what if the ones you turn down still try to come here on boats?- -but yes, turn around all the boats, see above.

Thirdly, that Spanish enclave in Africa with immigrants jumping the fence... See, that is EXACTLY why we should sink the refugee boats in the harbour, and escort them back if they left the harbour.

What if all the boat people go to the fence then? Build a concrete fortress?

Not ONE of those boats should reach Europe, or we set a precedent for others to follow. And others WILL follow, desperately, like you yourself attest to.

What if they find other ways? And again, securing such a long coastline is probably very expensive and requires a lot of effort, who is going to pay for this? We used to pay the local dictators to keep people away but apparently that doesn't work anymore since we bombed them away.

Or we can continue to disease the Mediterranean Sea with dead Africans, is that your solution?

Obviously, if that is what you derive from my posts here.

For those thinking what a bastard Kad is - dead Libyans in a fishing boat's hold: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33946912

Stopping the crisis at source is the only longterm solution.

You know what, if we DO have to re-invade Iraq and Afghanistan and commit to them for another two decades it would be money well spent if a generation grew up where women were educated and men didn't get their hands cut off for stealing.

Isn't that part of the problem? That we want to have our cake, eat it and not pay for it either? And then we just blame the desperate masses who arrive here for demanding a crumb that fell off our cake.