IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

No iron, my collection of African weapons must be fake than. Except it isn't

It was one generic example, and as I said, Africa is a very diverse continent. Wasn't Egypt more or less the first high culture that developed? Why did Europeans not overshadow the Egyptians at the time?

As for the debate Idaho started, there is a point to it. The borders in Europe work somewhat because they were created along lines people perceived as natural. Unfortunately that does not apply to the lines that the Europeans drew in Africa and the Middle East during colonial times, which just adds to the tension in these regions. Now you may complain that the Africans should just renegotiate these lines but then you may as well ask the US to renegotiate the border with Aztlán or all the people living in reservations if you think that's so easy.

I'm also not sure why the topic calls them illegal immigrants. If someone arrives in a European country and asks for asylum, he is not illegal but an asylum seeker until the validity of the request is determined. There are surely illegals here, but I haven't heard of any of them becoming rich or draining our welfare or getting free homes since you can't get any benefits if you're not registered. And at least for Germany the rate of rejected asylum requests is still somewhere around 50%, these people are sent back unless they can challenge the rejection in a court. There are actually people who check the validity of these requests and don't let people in who just want to be rich. May not be a foolproof process but some seem to think that we give everyone who arrives in Europe a car and a home. I know even people with a college education not from Africa, not criminal and very willing to learn the language, who seem to have a hard time staying in Germany legally.

[Fragony]

It was one generic example, and as I said, Africa is a very diverse continent. Wasn't Egypt more or less the first high culture that developed? Why did Europeans not overshadow the Egyptians at the time?

As for the debate Idaho started, there is a point to it. The borders in Europe work somewhat because they were created along lines people perceived as natural. Unfortunately that does not apply to the lines that the Europeans drew in Africa and the Middle East during colonial times, which just adds to the tension in these regions. Now you may complain that the Africans should just renegotiate these lines but then you may as well ask the US to renegotiate the border with Aztlán or all the people living in reservations if you think that's so easy.

I'm also not sure why the topic calls them illegal immigrants. If someone arrives in a European country and asks for asylum, he is not illegal but an asylum seeker until the validity of the request is determined. There are surely illegals here, but I haven't heard of any of them becoming rich or draining our welfare or getting free homes since you can't get any benefits if you're not registered. And at least for Germany the rate of rejected asylum requests is still somewhere around 50%, these people are sent back unless they can challenge the rejection in a court. There are actually people who check the validity of these requests and don't let people in who just want to be rich. May not be a foolproof process but some seem to think that we give everyone who arrives in Europe a car and a home. I know even people with a college education not from Africa, not criminal and very willing to learn the language, who seem to have a hard time staying in Germany legally.

International law dictates that they must ask asylum in the country they arive, if they don't than yes they are illegal immigrants