IMMIGRATION thread

[Kadagar_AV]

To anyone who is against my idea to sink the damn boats in the harbour before they set out, and drag any boats we find back to Africa...

Today I heard there was some sort of new record, with 18 ships/boats needing help... The largest had around 350 people on board...




To those who dislike my ideas, what would your own answers be? It's easy to criticize ideas you know, but why don't you come up with something better?


The situation we have no is not good for ANYONE, not us in Europe, nor them in Africa.

Something needs to be done, and fast. Just look at Macedonia currently, Police and Military having to show shock grenades and shoot rubber bullets to try and control the tide of immigrants...

And yet it's not enough to stop them, thousands still make it through a day...

I mean, I get it, they want to live in the west. I also wouldn't want to live in Africa... But at some point you have to agree that only Africa can solve African problems. We should help them, sure.

But the solution is not to move the African population here.

[Husar]

To anyone who is against my idea to sink the damn boats in the harbour before they set out, and drag any boats we find back to Africa...

Today I heard there was some sort of new record, with 18 ships/boats needing help... The largest had around 350 people on board...




To those who dislike my ideas, what would your own answers be? It's easy to criticize ideas you know, but why don't you come up with something better?


The situation we have no is not good for ANYONE, not us in Europe, nor them in Africa.

Something needs to be done, and fast. Just look at Macedonia currently, Police and Military having to show shock grenades and shoot rubber bullets to try and control the tide of immigrants...

And yet it's not enough to stop them, thousands still make it through a day...

I mean, I get it, they want to live in the west. I also wouldn't want to live in Africa... But at some point you have to agree that only Africa can solve African problems. We should help them, sure.

But the solution is not to move the African population here.

Macedonia, Africans? The ones storming Macedonia are mostly Syrians. Most of the Africans go to Italy and Spain, not to Greece.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/22/eu...igrant-crisis/

Amid scenes of misery, thousands of migrants -- most of them fleeing Syria's bitter conflict -- remained stranded Saturday in a no-man's land on the border between northern Greece and Macedonia.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34026114

Should we give them guns and send them back to Syria to fix their country?

[Kadagar_AV]

Macedonia, Africans? The ones storming Macedonia are mostly Syrians. Most of the Africans go to Italy and Spain, not to Greece.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/22/eu...igrant-crisis/



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34026114

Should we give them guns and send them back to Syria to fix their country?

Yepp, most are Syrians... And I honestly don't want those migration hordes lose in the society around me either...


You still just bitch about other peoples thoughts, how would you solve it?



To be quite frank, we could take every white European and move him to Africa, and then take all black/Arabic Africans and move them to Europe...

Infrastructure and everything intact as it is today.


And let's face it, a hundred years later we would have a fully functional Africa and a Europe gone to hell.




So again Husar, what do you argue would be a better way to solve it?




I say, do all we can NOT to let these types of people into functional cultures, and do our best to help them sort out their own cultural issues.



You propose... ... ... ... ... ... ??

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It's worth pointing out that many of the Syrians have gone to Turkey, then Greece, then Macedonia then into Western Europe via the Balkans.

At some point there they must have stopped being refugees and become economic migrants.

[Kadagar_AV]

It's worth pointing out that many of the Syrians have gone to Turkey, then Greece, then Macedonia then into Western Europe via the Balkans.

At some point there they must have stopped being refugees and become economic migrants.

Add that they themselves say:

"We don't understand why they will not let us in!! We will not stay, we want to get to germany or sweden!!"

[Husar]

You propose... ... ... ... ... ... ??

How about you read what I proposed?

[Kadagar_AV]

How about you read what I proposed?

You have not proposed ****. You gave a one-liner if even that, and ended it with a questionmark...

Should we give them guns and send them back to Syria to fix their country?

Is that your width and depth of argumentation?

[Husar]

You have not proposed ****. You gave a one-liner if even that, and ended it with a questionmark...

Is that your width and depth of argumentation?

I'm sorry for you. It seems that there is nothing I can do.

[Kadagar_AV]

I'm sorry for you. It seems that there is nothing I can do.

Sure is, you can explain what solution to this crisis you find best.

Instead of the usual bitching and moaning from people who dislike others ideas but have absolutely NOTHING to bring to the tables themselves.