To Hijab or not to Hijab

[Pannonian]

Only criminals hide their face.

Only criminals encrypt their data.

Only criminals refuse searches.

Only criminals demand privacy.

Only Americans live in America. Let Americans live in America and have their own way, and we'll have ours.

[Montmorency]

What is "your" way?

[Pannonian]

What is "your" way?

Not something we're trying to impose on Americans. I think some American traditions are lunacy, but I also think they have the right to follow them if that's their wish.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Only Americans live in America. Let Americans live in America and have their own way, and we'll have ours.

You guys don't seem to live up to that sentiment when it comes to America's gun culture.

[Pannonian]

You guys don't seem to live up to that sentiment when it comes to America's gun culture.

That's what I'm talking about. I think the American view on that is lunacy. But I respect their right to see things that way.

[a completely inoffensive name]

That's what I'm talking about. I think the American view on that is lunacy. But I respect their right to see things that way.

Ahh. I must have incorrectly remembered your views from the last gun control thread. In general, the European view seems to be "respect differences of opinion, unless we deem it to be wrong."

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Ahh. I must have incorrectly remembered your views from the last gun control thread. In general, the European view seems to be "respect differences of opinion, unless we deem it to be wrong."

Replace "wrong" with "beyond the pale" and you have it

[a completely inoffensive name]

Replace "wrong" with "beyond the pale" and you have it

British libel laws were known to be used to silence genuine critique because of the seriousness the British government takes in protecting "image" and "character".

This is why your government just reformed your terrible laws in 2013!

[Rhyfelwyr]

If Western countries want to ban all face coverings primarily because of real security concerns, then that is obviously not discrimination and is a reasonable thing to do.

If Western countries want to ban all face coverings primarily because of they go against their their social norms, then that is not discrimination but it is slightly illiberal.

If Western countries want to ban all face coverings primarily to stop Muslim women wearing a certain form of clothing, then that is obviously discrimination against a religious group.

It all depends on where you are coming from with your argument.