FGM: 1,026 new cases in 3 month in the UK

[Idaho]

FGM is a big problem and the solution doesn't involve making high handed veiled racist points about barbarous races. It involves education, social services, police and the wider community.

[Fragony]

FGM is a big problem and the solution doesn't involve making high handed veiled racist points about barbarous races. It involves education, social services, police and the wider community.

How can it be racist if islam is ths the common dominator over various culures, just asking. if you choose to ignore that, can I please gently file you under S for Supporter of genital mutilation? Can't be both at the same time, non possible, sant reasone

[Strike For The South]

FGM is a big problem and the solution doesn't involve making high handed veiled racist points about barbarous races. It involves education, social services, police and the wider community.

I forgot the part where cutting off someones clitoris was racist. I'm sure throwing money and community meetings at the problem will solve it.

[Beskar]

I forgot the part where cutting off someones clitoris was racist. I'm sure throwing money and community meetings at the problem will solve it.

The cases of FGM are generally done aboard in areas such as Pakistan, they fly their daughters out there to do it.
I am pretty such educating people on the dangers and the fact it is basically sexual abuse will make them start reconsidering this choice instead of your choice of... what exactly?

[Strike For The South]

The cases of FGM are generally done aboard in areas such as Pakistan, they fly their daughters out there to do it.
I am pretty such educating people on the dangers and the fact it is basically sexual abuse will make them start reconsidering this choice instead of your choice of... what exactly?

The UK needs to a better job of assimilating their immigrants. I have no problem with immigration (though it should be scaled back in Europe). I find anti-immigration to be reactionary. The American assimilation model is just better than the European multicultural model.

I do not think the education will have the effect you think it will but we may have to disagree on that.

You need to focus on turning these people British.

[Beskar]

You need to focus on turning these people British.

That is some rhetoric, but how do you turn them British? You already ruled out education and social outreach as possibilities.

This is about culture, you have to forcibly change the culture which sees women as sex objects to be mutilated for the satisfaction of men. you do this with arrests, fines and lengthy prison sentences alongside public condemnation of the practice and its adherents.

This is already done. So is the status quo all that is needed? If not, what else can we add?

[Greyblades]

Don't scream racist every time a brown person is arrested for acting out his culture's less civilized traditions.

[Noncommunist]

That is some rhetoric, but how do you turn them British? You already ruled out education and social outreach as possibilities.

Whatever you did with the Welsh, Scots, Cornish, and Irish seemed to work for some time.

No amount of "education" will change this fact, it's not like trying to get people to believe humans have an effect on the climate, or that we evolved from lower primates. This is about culture, you have to forcibly change the culture which sees women as sex objects to be mutilated for the satisfaction of men. you do this with arrests, fines and lengthy prison sentences alongside public condemnation of the practice and its adherents.

Unfortunately, anthropogenic climate change and evolution are up for debate because of culture too. Plenty of people get educated on them in school and but choose belief in one or the other based on the position of their family. Even smart people capable of analyzing the issue can end up with the wrong view due to their increased capacity for mental gymnastics that validates their emotionally driven opinions.

[Beskar]

Don't scream racist every time a brown person is arrested for acting out his culture's less civilized traditions.

I haven't done. I simply don't tar all people with the same brush, things always go wrong that way.

It is wrong as people who believe in individual liberty and justice to lump people together, because it would betray our own principles. Judge the person innocent until proven guilty.

Aren't these the values of our western democracy?

[Viking]

The American assimilation model is just better than the European multicultural model.

I note that this supposed superior assimilation model has yet to properly merge the American populations of European and African origins.

[Idaho]

The UK needs to a better job of assimilating their immigrants... You need to focus on turning these people British.

The absence of some kind of aggressive flag-waving cultural orthodoxy that can be agreed on as "British" is one of this nation's best features. American patriotism both amuses and revolts me.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

FGM is a big problem and the solution doesn't involve making high handed veiled racist points about barbarous races. It involves education, social services, police and the wider community.

The cases of FGM are generally done aboard in areas such as Pakistan, they fly their daughters out there to do it.
I am pretty such educating people on the dangers and the fact it is basically sexual abuse will make them start reconsidering this choice instead of your choice of... what exactly?

FGM is designed to reduce the female's interest in sex - it is effective.

No amount of "education" will change this fact, it's not like trying to get people to believe humans have an effect on the climate, or that we evolved from lower primates. This is about culture, you have to forcibly change the culture which sees women as sex objects to be mutilated for the satisfaction of men. you do this with arrests, fines and lengthy prison sentences alongside public condemnation of the practice and its adherents.

Not through passive community outreach that is openly scoffed at.

FGM is something practiced by cultures who see what we consider "sexual abuse" as a form of "piety".

[Idaho]

I forgot the part where cutting off someones clitoris was racist. I'm sure throwing money and community meetings at the problem will solve it.

I don't doubt you forget it.

Your opening salvo was a typical small minded construction. Delicately layering ignorance upon suggestion upon prejudice. You didn't actually make a definitive statement - just hinted at it.

Why don't you take your opening post and give us some more detail? What did you mean by it? Perhaps there is some true wisdom we can use, obfuscated by a want of time or articulation.

[Fragony]

I don't doubt you forget it.

Your opening salvo was a typical small minded construction. Delicately layering ignorance upon suggestion upon prejudice. You didn't actually make a definitive statement - just hinted at it.

Why don't you take your opening post and give us some more detail? What did you mean by it? Perhaps there is some true wisdom we can use, obfuscated by a want of time or articulation.

I'll do it for him, you know in what communities this takes place, who are you kidding besides yourself.

[Idaho]

I'll do it for him, you know in what communities this takes place, who are you kidding besides yourself.

Essentially equitorial Africa:

http://www.undispatch.com/map-of-the...on-is-rampant/

[Fragony]

Essentially equitorial Africa:

http://www.undispatch.com/map-of-the...on-is-rampant/

It happens there as well, but you know perfectly well that in the UK it are mostly what you euphoricaly call Asians. The UK is not the whole world, just a tiny island that has severe problems with people with a certain religion.

Can I call you heartless for just looking away

[Idaho]

We have no severe problems with any religion in the UK. Looking out my window the place seems quite orderly.