Our Lord, J.C.

[rory_20_uk]

It MUST always change. It is in the very nature of society to do so. Perhaps there have been times where a government had tried to hold society in stasis - Tokugawa shogunate maybe - but even that created a society vastly different to the one it started with. And societies held in stasis tend to have great pent up stresses that can produce catastrophic results - Iraq is a good example.

There is no reason why there would be an Islamic ghetto in Torrington (yes I do know it). As with all ukip support, the greatest anxiety about the influx of foreigners are in areas with the least incidence of such influxes. Places where new immigrants frequently come are largely relaxed about such things. Why is that?

Using Iraq as an example is inherently flawed as we do not know without the stasis the problems would not have occurred earlier - is it that the stasis that made them hate each other or their hatred was only kept in check by the stasis? I don't know, but given that Sunnis refer to Shi'ia as apostates doesn't bode well.

I have no problem with a system similar to Australia in place where the numbers and the quality are both assessed. I have no problem with economic migrants as long as we are clear when they are no longer required they return to origin - similar to expats elsewhere in the world.

I do have a problem when we have families in the UK who are British who view the UK as "the enemy" (heard described on the Right Wing BBC Radio 4).

The last case is when people don't want to integrate - a key part of change that both the hosts as well as the immigrants change and meld together and generally this occurs over time, and yes generally quite well.

Are we alone in thinking a massive influx of persons is not desirable? Erm, no - almost all countries on the planet share this outlook.

[Gilrandir]

I do have a problem when we have families in the UK who are British who view the UK as "the enemy" (heard described on the Right Wing BBC Radio 4).

This is not a problem. The problem will start (as it did in Ukraine) when they will call for a foreign leader to bring in his army.