Fair enough. Not the time or place for a lengthy discussion, but my view is that at its core it is inherently and unambiguously dishonest, doesn't help to confirm anything and so I won't engage in it.
Edit: rereading that sounds really curt. It isn't meant as such and isn't a criticism - I understand the rules of the game. The point is, it isn't really a courtesy at all, it is an organisational tool, which doesn't tell you anything at all in game.
Last edited by Gaius Scribonius Curio; 10-13-2015 at 21:24. Reason: Added clarity...
Nihil nobis metuendum est, praeter metum ipsum. - Caesar
We have not to fear anything, except fear itself.
Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram
perque domos Ditis vacuas et inania regna:
quale per incertam lunam sub luce maligna
est iter in silvis, ubi caelum condidit umbra
Iuppiter, et rebus nox abstulit atra colorem. - Vergil
So, I've been waiting for Lissa/Spaceman to be revealed as townie/french or both one way or another. In order to see if it was true about her being blocked, and it turns out it was. The only person that isn't accounted for that night is Golden1Knight. If anyone can account for him Night 1 great, if not then I'd say he should be lynched now. If someone can account for him then that means afaik everyone was accounted for and I don't know how that would be possible. Also, the fact that Zack refused to vig G1K on Night 3? makes me a bit leery.
The reason I voted BSmith is because none of it makes any sense to me and I think it highly likely that he's the Frenchman/Godfather. Why was he investigated/cleared by NotJimRV/dcmort93 immediately? I can think of 4-5 better choices right off that make way more sense than BSmith. That investigation choice is really odd to me. He's active but quiet and unassuming, which is what I'd expect. I don't believe he was roleblocked either. Doesn't make sense at all, just makes him look shinier. I'd be flabbergasted if he was innocent.
Whether Gaius was innocent or guilty I'm not really sure, he was kind of an enigma to me. I do know that we were going to protect Montmorency N2 but that fell through for some reason or other. Night 3 we did end up protecting him, and then our group sort of fell apart. I PM'd with Monty after the whole two groups fiasco explaining myself and asking how he knew. He said Gaius and some other stuff about nuking all of us, which was pretty funny. I just found it all odd and have been wary of both since.
Andres has like 1 confirmed action that I know of and that was Night 1. He claimed to have stolen once(?), but I couldn't confirm that.
ATPG () Abandoned our group after Night 1 iirc maybe Night 2 been piratin' ever since. I haven't bothered to trudge through the thread to confirm. Wish he would have jumped ship.
Double A well he's like Andres really, which is why I've been mutinying. He's in and out, plus no idea what he's doing at night.
That's who I categorized as 'High' on my list.
El Barto, Ishmael, Choxorn(abandon ship), Sprig, Zack, Ituralde(Medium-High) = Medium suspicion
Low = Everyone else
None = Csargo
That's my list, it's not color-coded like ATPG's was, but no one can compete with the Pizza. Feel free to ignore me though, that's cool to. I've only risked my life like three times and defended innocent people the entire game. This game is really starting to get to me. I should have a lie down.
Arrr, why be ye takin' the Japanese shungy woodcuts we got when piratin' in the Eastern Seas last year to yer so-called ‘lie-down’?
An' also, I be takin' issue with yer suspectin' me. Me whereabouts be provable fer every night, I's sold me vote every single day an' can prove it, which makes me more pirate-y than most, an' I be Lutheran to boot, an enemy o' the French crown an' their Huguenot-slaughtering lackeys. They be wantin' Flanders fer themselves an' tha' be nae good in me eyes.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
I do like the idea of bitter and murderous people killing known townies and taking command. That seems like a swell plan everyone should endorse.
Everyone get aboard this mutiny. Zackbeard for president. This will work out fine.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Saying I "refused" to vig him is a misrepresentation. His name was brought up as a possible target (qt m311), and I said I was "not crazy about it" (m316) as I had worked with him the previous night and he proved reliable. The way you present it suggests that I was placed in a group to vig GoldenKnight and was uncooperative, which is false.
Refused may have been too strong a word, I'll give you that. It just seems odd.
Visor seems good to me. He's been indecisive and overly confident at various points, which makes me think he's genuine. My opinion has evolved over the course of the game. While I don't agree with him on a lot of decisions, he's unlikely to be scum imo.You suspect all of the leadership but don't even mention Visor?
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