I was gonna say, None Shall Pass had well over 2000 (2323 game posts and 111 post-game). It also lasted longer and had more players, so by my calculations Pirate Ship Mafia III was actually more active.
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I was gonna say, None Shall Pass had well over 2000 (2323 game posts and 111 post-game). It also lasted longer and had more players, so by my calculations Pirate Ship Mafia III was actually more active.
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And this is my post 402 in this thread, bet yall are sick of seeing my name in this thread!
Re: BSmith - I agree with auto, I think the townie with the chip on the shoulder roles are't that fun (fun for those who get it though, I think). Perhaps he could've had a 1 shot kill and a block instead of killing those who stole from him.
Flax had a very difficult role as well I think - not sure how he could've won unless he got lucky.
The captain/officers position was pretty important again this game - seems like having strong officers and a captain really helps in driving the game forward somewhat.
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And yet the captain was essentially a figurehead and the first mate's scans were largely ineffective (at least in their use).Originally Posted by Visorslash
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Any more QT links?
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None from me. I can post some more chat logs if you guys are interested in that?
Actually here is one:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/5yAJZ2MesLimB
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sure post em
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this is me arguing for full yolo after monty threatened aa with mutiny
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
aa/nj/dc/gh/myself talked a lot of non game related things as well - which pads the convo up a bit.
talked to atpg a lot - but can't remember the juicy bits.
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I mean, the guy who campaigned against me, threatened to mutiny, and tried to steal from me - I rewarded him for his efforts by bringing him into my inner circle. Hardly Stalinist, who ordered anyone who looked at him the wrong way to be executed. I didn't run as tight of a ship as you're implying or might remember. I never did anything like kage did n1 or Visor did n7 or you did n8 (giving every living player specific orders), though I did frequently give suggestions to vig groups (including the Frenchman and several Spaniards) and I asked people to report on their night activity (only after I was essentially confirmed town publicly). I (and the officers) were leaders, not micro-managers.Not from my perspective.
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CAPTAIN ZACKBEARD DID NOTHING WRONG
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Fine, Roman imperial autocracy.
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Zack, on the other hand, did plenty wrong this game. Plenty.
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your trousers are aflame liari'm not protecting him lolHow do I know you're not protecting him I thought you were buddiesLol, I figured you wanted to do it, so I'd let you do itSeriously? lol
we did chat a bit but i'm wondering whether he will actually leave the ship if i tell him
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To be fair - he had already bribed a protection group together - so I was just telling them to keep doing it.
As long as anyone who wasn't me was losing money I was all for it. I wanted to mutiny AA specifically for the gold lol.
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He bribed a protection group he abandoned ship? ...why?
Also I hope you're happy whining about your "low" gold total all game now that you have almost 100 more than anyone else
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What were the events this game GH?
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The storm and then a private event I sent on N6 to everyone alive that had stolen by that point in the game - I'll post that when I get to the roles. Had another one in the pipeline if we got to N9 but I'm going to keep it unrevealed in case I feel like using it in the future.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053658422
Askthepizzaguy
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Well I whined so people would NOT steal from me anymore. I did get stolen from at least three times.
The 100 more is from Flax and Landlubber, without them I wouldn't have won the Gold victory.
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I actually set my will to give you fifty gold on N1. Not really sure why, but you definitely deserved it after trying to talk everyone out of vigging me and Lissa, so I just didn't change it. :pThe 100 more is from Flax and Landlubber, without them I wouldn't have won the Gold victory.
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Where's my 50 gold for discouraging a GoldenKnight vig?
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A full five actual players (Including Csargo of all people) were ahead of me in post count, I barely did anything by day by my standards and by night I actually went anti-group and flew solo most of the game.
As for my last night on the ship-
I put a protect group on myself so I could stay on board the ship and continue stealing from you, and Andres, and I thought about stealing from Myrddraal as well.
But, I was told I'd probably be ordered off the ship soon, so paying 20 gold to protect myself seemed dumb.
I immediately withdrew payment from Andres because he initially decided he didn't want to protect me even though I offered him a sweet deal on it, better than the deal he asked for from me earlier in the game, and I felt he was doing fine gold-wise anyway.
I withdrew payment from Ituralde because I heard he was about to die and he did try to steal from me.
I continued payment to Autolycus and Golden1Knight because they were good crewmen who volunteered and did good work in other groups. I figured 10 gold wasn't that much of a big loss, and I wanted to keep my word as much as possible.
I could have abandoned all of them but the idea I needed to leave the ship the next night was tossed at me and I realized I wouldn't be able to do more stealing to make up for the gold investment for the protect group that night.
I figured after that night you wouldn't have enough people to realistically vig me and you'd have bigger fish to fry. So I was all set to continue our stealing rivalry but Visorslash interfered with it.
The alternative was for me to defy Visor and there was no way that wouldn't have ended violently, so I did leave.
If Visor had told me sooner I'd be ordered off the ship soon, I'd have never bothered with the protect group.
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Thanks all! Thanks GH for hosting.
Also many thanks to Myrddraal (My holiday was fantatistic) for picking up Squawky Jim, whose whole strat was 'Zack is town I'll follow him.'
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If you hadn't bothered with the protection group, I would have abandoned ship. The impacts were getting too close and I was proven right the next day. That's always the most frustrating parts about Mafia games, where you're doomed because of something you did two weeks ago and there's nothing you can do to save you. Also my window of playing (now) didn't really fit with the other players. All the important lynch decisions and back and forth vote trading, alwasy happened when I was asleep.
Overall I enjoyed the game though. I thought the stealing and guarding would be more important, and I really enjoyed that part. In hindsight though, I think the specific writeups favour the town. Ideally the Captain would have organized nightly mock fights, with people put in Vigging and protections groups that would then duke it out and have everybody accounted for. Everybody who doesn't play along would be French.
Also trying to get the Captaincy to a Frenchman would probably have been the best option to win the game as the French. That or the Myrdraal approach of just going along with the vig kills until the crew is properly decimated.
Reading this, I was fully in support of Kagemushas captaincy and don't really understand why Visor and co pushed for the mutiny. I thought they might be afraid of him being French, but never said so and he was revealed as town later. That coupled with my fear that the French would install themselves in the Captaincy was responsible why I couldn't get to trust Visorslash throughout the game, which probably got me killed for being too uncooperative.
Thanks to GH for putting in the effort of hosting thig. I know I asked enough rules questions and always became a prompt and friendly reply. I can only imagine how much work it is to host a game of that scale. So thanks a lot, really!
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The delayed reveals did help us, which was nice in a game with a lot of perks for the town (a lot of the mislynches of Kage loyalists like Xiahou would not have happened had Kage's town status been revealed). That said, delayed reveal is an annoying mechanic overall, since the lynch is supposed to be the town's tool for gathering information, and delayed reveals denies the town that, forcing spreadsheeting.
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"That or the Myrdraal approach of just going along with the vig kills until the crew is properly decimated."If you hadn't bothered with the protection group, I would have abandoned ship. The impacts were getting too close and I was proven right the next day. That's always the most frustrating parts about Mafia games, where you're doomed because of something you did two weeks ago and there's nothing you can do to save you. Also my window of playing (now) didn't really fit with the other players. All the important lynch decisions and back and forth vote trading, alwasy happened when I was asleep.
Overall I enjoyed the game though. I thought the stealing and guarding would be more important, and I really enjoyed that part. In hindsight though, I think the specific writeups favour the town. Ideally the Captain would have organized nightly mock fights, with people put in Vigging and protections groups that would then duke it out and have everybody accounted for. Everybody who doesn't play along would be French.
Also trying to get the Captaincy to a Frenchman would probably have been the best option to win the game as the French. That or the Myrdraal approach of just going along with the vig kills until the crew is properly decimated.
Reading this, I was fully in support of Kagemushas captaincy and don't really understand why Visor and co pushed for the mutiny. I thought they might be afraid of him being French, but never said so and he was revealed as town later. That coupled with my fear that the French would install themselves in the Captaincy was responsible why I couldn't get to trust Visorslash throughout the game, which probably got me killed for being too uncooperative.
Thanks to GH for putting in the effort of hosting thig. I know I asked enough rules questions and always became a prompt and friendly reply. I can only imagine how much work it is to host a game of that scale. So thanks a lot, really!
That's basically what we did. Only problem is, some of the vig kills were actually aimed at us
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This game really put town vs. scum game in perspective for me. I've always thought that my town and scum game were pretty similar. But if I was town, I would have probably been a vocal Kage loyalist. I still don't get why he was mutinied frankly
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actually, re-reading that day, its hard to say which side I would have taken as town. Still, I'm curious: was there any backroom conspriacy or knowledge behind that mutiny, or just general frustration?
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I think the other thing that made me feel more like Bsmith came out of left field, and this is partially on me, is that I read khaan's death as a five man kill, rather than a four man kill and a one man kill, both successful. I also read Curio's death as being a one/one/one, where only one succeeded, rather than a one/one/one where two succeeded. Therefore, I hadn't perceived any solo kills besides the first mate.
If that ambiguity wasn't intentional, I think adding a recap of publically visible actions to nights, as I think was present in Capo (but I wouldn't swear to it), would improve the experience.
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I did try to hide the fact I could solo kill as long as possible so as to avoid the inevitable questions. Remember I was ultimately after the items and really needed people to work with me so I could find them. If I could kill as a group instead of solo I went that way. Originally the GSC kill was supposed to be as a group too, but I could sense it falling apart and went solo.
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There was, in the main Treachery on the High Seas QT group, but I think everyone's motivations for participating in it were different. It ended up just all snowballing together eventually. A really weird phase for me to preside over.
I was ready for this if anyone tried it. There was a provision in the rules that any townie who ended up in a solo attack or protection, whether by intention or by just the group falling apart, had a chance of not just failure but death (Csargo actually came extremely close to dying as a result of his solo "protection" of Curio the night he was converted). There would have been one night of it and then I think enthusiasm would have been sapped once there were about four casualties due to collateral damage.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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On the other hand, players in the writeups seem to take 'flesh wounds' fairly-frequently with no problem.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
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Flavor. After three games, you start to run out of ideas for how fights go on a pirate ship.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
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