Cloning

[a completely inoffensive name]

A rather imprecise question. But do remember that if it isn't physical, it isn't real.

I don't care what you say, Harry Potter is real dang it.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

So is mathematics and logic then considered metaphysical?

Concepts, symbols, statistics and thought experiments don't require a physical analogue but they do help us understand the world around us. For instance Schrödinger's cat?

No, Metaphysics comes before Mathematics, I believe mathematics comes before Logic. Today people would prefer to dispense with metaphysics because it makes the concept of "scientific fact" difficult.

A rather imprecise question. But do remember that if it isn't physical, it isn't real.

This is not a fact, it is a metaphysical proposition - the contention that there is nothing beyond our five senses.

If there isn't a physical aspect how precise can something be?

1 is a concept and doesn't itself exist. By numbering an object 1 you do not change any of its physical properties. So is 1 not real?

The imprecision comes from looking for a non-physical aspect.

What I am pointing out is that it is inescapable insofar as we are human, as you demonstrate by defending it from your own criticism.

Humans cannot help but struggle to associate everything in their "experience" with just one "nature".

They create categories...

This is an excellent example of a metaphysical argument.

I don't care what you say, Harry Potter is real dang it.

Don't worry, he's wrong.

[Papewaio]

Sidebar we have more then five senses.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Sidebar we have more then five senses.

Apparently so - remember I learned my anatomy from Hippocrates and Galen - did you know there are TWO bones in the human jaw?

Seriously though, if one wanted one could argue that most of additional senses are aspects of the sense of touch in one for or another.

[Papewaio]

Balance?

[Papewaio]

Balance?

[Husar]

Aren't all our senses related to touch?

Light touches the eye, particles touch the skin in the nose, something touches the tongue, waves of condensed air touch the skin in our ear whereupon fluid touches the hairs within our ear. Isn't balance also based on that same fluid and perhaps the pressure (amount of touch ) on our toes when we stand on our feet? If there is no "touch" between particles of some kind or energy-interaction between waves or whatever actually happens, then we can't sense anything.

Just like every computer has a touch interface, you just don't always touch the screen but a key or a button.

[Papewaio]

I didn't realize cloning was such a touchy subject