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    Go sit in the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Go sit in the corner.
    If you take issue with the accurate big picture presented in the article, it would seem you're already sitting in one yourself; or maybe hiding in one, to be more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic View Post
    If you take issue with the accurate big picture presented in the article, it would seem you're already sitting in one yourself; or maybe hiding in one, to be more accurate.
    What would you say was the "big picture" presented in the article?

    The only accurate claim of substance I could find was the unremarkable claim that the West undervalues Muslim victims of Islamist violence relative to Christian victims.
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    That's assuming it becomes a stalemate, that ISIS don't capture nuclear material or weapons from Israel or Iran.

    I wouldn't assume Iran can defend itself any better from a ISIS on a roll then Singapore could from WWII Japan.

    That's the problem for every quagmire created by Western ideals on how to conquer a country there is a steam roller conquer who makes out like Genghis.

    What do we do in 15 years if ISIS hold all of the ME? Do we let the next superpower paradigm be a China vs ISIS dominated world?

    ISIS are more likely to fold up and fail once they lose momentum. Let Russia support their Syrian strongman and ISIS will be whittled away.

    Yes it won't get rid of the root causes, but it isn't allowing an opportunity for something far worse to evolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    That's assuming it becomes a stalemate, that ISIS don't capture nuclear material or weapons from Israel or Iran.
    And then what? Kill a thousand people with it? Nuclear material makes for piss-poor tactical weapons; I'd be much more worried about the circumstances in which anyone "Captures" anything from Israel and Iran.

    I wouldn't assume Iran can defend itself any better from a ISIS on a roll then Singapore could from WWII Japan.
    More like the other way around, or Singapore attacking Japan.

    That's the problem for every quagmire created by Western ideals on how to conquer a country there is a steam roller conquer who makes out like Genghis.

    What do we do in 15 years if ISIS hold all of the ME? Do we let the next superpower paradigm be a China vs ISIS dominated world?
    Geography in this case prevents any such power from developing. No state or wannabe-state in the region has the capacity to take and hold so much territory, which is precisely why they should be encouraged to attempt to do so.

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    I dont know which reality you dwell, but one does not kill the patient just to treat the symptoms. You seem to be dreaming of some sort of grand stand between Islamist and others. You know what? IS is dreaming of the similar event.
    Correct. The idea is to make sure they lose.

    You dont sacrifice 500 million people of Middle East in order to have a go with all the wahhabist at once. That is not strategy, but madness.
    It would probably be more like 5 million.
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