Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-16-2015, 02:13

Originally Posted by Papewaio

40,000 mainly POWs so not exactly volunteer and the same for the civilians living in Burma and Malaysia

They fought well though, didn't they?

**Papewaio** · 11-16-2015, 02:23

Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

They fought well though, didn't they?

They died well.

**AE Bravo** · 11-16-2015, 02:34

Originally Posted by PFH

From Strike's perspective, from where he lives and where he grew up the UAE is very soft living. As you said, everybody is rich.

LOL yeah I’m sure people have it rough in Texas. Their school textbooks are wonderful, I’m sure they get time in prison for speaking out too.

It’s funny because some of them actually think they have it rough. How cute.

what I was arguing was that we should have picked a side years ago - we have actually picked a side in Syria though - the side(s) against Assad and IS.

So basically you would’ve preferred to have this mess sooner rather than later.

The only Powers able to help a Liberal or just moderate revolt in an Arab country are Western Powers

Apparently not. Picking a side will always lead to Islamist hydra. De-Baathification of the Iraqi army was the icing on the cake, you should’ve kept the high-morale secular armies while they were here instead of running them off to terrorist orgs and replacing them with head-drilling Shia militias who have had the time of their lives collecting the heads of your soldiers/American marines.

playing into the hands of the people who just want to build a concrete wall around the Middle East and let the whole thing go to Hell - or even further into Hell.

You either help like a responsible world power as China is doing in Africa or Russia is currently doing in collaboration with a legitimate incumbent - or you leave.

I blame certain countries for allowing US, British, and French military bases instead of Russian ones. GTFO for god's sake and quit crying about immigration, we lose thousands over here your speaking one breath.

**Strike For The South** · 11-16-2015, 04:29

Originally Posted by HitWithThe5

LOL yeah I’m sure people have it rough in Texas. Their school textbooks are wonderful, I’m sure they get time in prison for speaking out too.

It’s funny because some of them actually think they have it rough. How cute.

You mad bro?

**AE Bravo** · 11-16-2015, 07:28

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You mad bro?

I tend to get mad at the mouthbreather crew on the right.

I can't seem to find the ones that aren't mouthbreathers on the internet, they go full retard anonymously.

**Fragony** · 11-16-2015, 08:59

Originally Posted by HitWithThe5

I tend to get mad at the mouthbreather crew on the right.

I can't seem to find the ones that aren't mouthbreathers on the internet, they go full retard anonymously.

No offense intended but no matter full retard it may be, they got a point. It's rediculous to not to take islam into the equation, something some people refuse to do (that's not personally directed at you). I am really tired of gutmenschen and islamphiles who refuse to acknowledge a simple truth, that islam isn't peace. I know that these guys are as welcome as the inquisition for normal muslims who only care aabout what's for dinner, looking away is kinda dumb

**AE Bravo** · 11-16-2015, 09:31

Originally Posted by Fragony

No offense intended but no matter full retard it may be, they got a point. It's rediculous to not to take islam into the equation, something some people refuse to do (that's not personally directed at you). I am really tired of gutmenschen and islamphiles who refuse to acknowledge a simple truth, that islam isn't peace. I know that these guys are as welcome as the inquisition for normal muslims who only care aabout what's for dinner, looking away is kinda dumb

This approach to Islam is problematic imo, and this is why the premise of PFH's argument is a waste of everyone's time. You may be correct in assuming that Islam isn't peace even though by definition it is, but that doesn't make it the opposite either.

Islam is in the equation. It's not monolithic, not homogenous. So surely there is a problem with:

A. Islam in warzones
B. Islam in Europe
C. Islamic politics

PFH pinpointing the issue right down to Islam itself is a simplistic view equivalent to how an atheist would see someone using god to explain the universe. Ignorant and lazy. Presents more problems than solutions.

aka PFH and STFS are Statler and Waldorf, the old guys from the muppets.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-17-2015, 04:21

Originally Posted by HitWithThe5

LOL yeah I’m sure people have it rough in Texas. Their school textbooks are wonderful, I’m sure they get time in prison for speaking out too.

It’s funny because some of them actually think they have it rough. How cute.

Poverty, malnourishment, crime, lack of access to medical care - gun crime. Some people in Texas do have it rough, to say nothing of the inbreeding. I shouldn't cast stones over the last bit though - given the missing members of my own family tree.

So basically you would’ve preferred to have this mess sooner rather than later.

It was a tragedy before we got involved, it might not have been quite as bad if we had got involved earlier. Heavy fighting has swept most of Syria at this point. It's possible that we could have contained the conflict, geographically. At the very least we would already have been there when IS reared up and they would not have had the successes they have if they had been subjected to the wrath of the Sons of Valhalla from the beginning.

Apparently not. Picking a side will always lead to Islamist hydra. De-Baathification of the Iraqi army was the icing on the cake, you should’ve kept the high-morale secular armies while they were here instead of running them off to terrorist orgs and replacing them with head-drilling Shia militias who have had the time of their lives collecting the heads of your soldiers/American marines.

If you believe this then you're part of the problem. I'm certain not all Muslims believe this, unless all Muslims are liars.

You either help like a responsible world power as China is doing in Africa or Russia is currently doing in collaboration with a legitimate incumbent - or you leave.

I blame certain countries for allowing US, British, and French military bases instead of Russian ones. GTFO for god's sake and quit crying about immigration, we lose thousands over here your speaking one breath.

That's incredibly naive. We aren't saints but we'll still be interested in helping you after all your oil is gone, we'll probably be even nicer than we are now. Russia and China will drop you like a lump of lead - these are the countries that start wars against friendly nations for land and/or resources and then lie about it.