LOL yeah I’m sure people have it rough in Texas. Their school textbooks are wonderful, I’m sure they get time in prison for speaking out too.Originally Posted by PFH
It’s funny because some of them actually think they have it rough. How cute.
So basically you would’ve preferred to have this mess sooner rather than later.what I was arguing was that we should have picked a side years ago - we have actually picked a side in Syria though - the side(s) against Assad and IS.
Apparently not. Picking a side will always lead to Islamist hydra. De-Baathification of the Iraqi army was the icing on the cake, you should’ve kept the high-morale secular armies while they were here instead of running them off to terrorist orgs and replacing them with head-drilling Shia militias who have had the time of their lives collecting the heads of your soldiers/American marines.The only Powers able to help a Liberal or just moderate revolt in an Arab country are Western Powers
You either help like a responsible world power as China is doing in Africa or Russia is currently doing in collaboration with a legitimate incumbent - or you leave.playing into the hands of the people who just want to build a concrete wall around the Middle East and let the whole thing go to Hell - or even further into Hell.
I blame certain countries for allowing US, British, and French military bases instead of Russian ones. GTFO for god's sake and quit crying about immigration, we lose thousands over here your speaking one breath.
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My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
No offense intended but no matter full retard it may be, they got a point. It's rediculous to not to take islam into the equation, something some people refuse to do (that's not personally directed at you). I am really tired of gutmenschen and islamphiles who refuse to acknowledge a simple truth, that islam isn't peace. I know that these guys are as welcome as the inquisition for normal muslims who only care aabout what's for dinner, looking away is kinda dumb
Last edited by Fragony; 11-16-2015 at 09:19.
This approach to Islam is problematic imo, and this is why the premise of PFH's argument is a waste of everyone's time. You may be correct in assuming that Islam isn't peace even though by definition it is, but that doesn't make it the opposite either.
Islam is in the equation. It's not monolithic, not homogenous. So surely there is a problem with:
A. Islam in warzones
B. Islam in Europe
C. Islamic politics
PFH pinpointing the issue right down to Islam itself is a simplistic view equivalent to how an atheist would see someone using god to explain the universe. Ignorant and lazy. Presents more problems than solutions.
aka PFH and STFS are Statler and Waldorf, the old guys from the muppets.
Last edited by AE Bravo; 11-16-2015 at 09:41.
Poverty, malnourishment, crime, lack of access to medical care - gun crime. Some people in Texas do have it rough, to say nothing of the inbreeding. I shouldn't cast stones over the last bit though - given the missing members of my own family tree.
It was a tragedy before we got involved, it might not have been quite as bad if we had got involved earlier. Heavy fighting has swept most of Syria at this point. It's possible that we could have contained the conflict, geographically. At the very least we would already have been there when IS reared up and they would not have had the successes they have if they had been subjected to the wrath of the Sons of Valhalla from the beginning.So basically you would’ve preferred to have this mess sooner rather than later.
If you believe this then you're part of the problem. I'm certain not all Muslims believe this, unless all Muslims are liars.Apparently not. Picking a side will always lead to Islamist hydra. De-Baathification of the Iraqi army was the icing on the cake, you should’ve kept the high-morale secular armies while they were here instead of running them off to terrorist orgs and replacing them with head-drilling Shia militias who have had the time of their lives collecting the heads of your soldiers/American marines.
That's incredibly naive. We aren't saints but we'll still be interested in helping you after all your oil is gone, we'll probably be even nicer than we are now. Russia and China will drop you like a lump of lead - these are the countries that start wars against friendly nations for land and/or resources and then lie about it.You either help like a responsible world power as China is doing in Africa or Russia is currently doing in collaboration with a legitimate incumbent - or you leave.
I blame certain countries for allowing US, British, and French military bases instead of Russian ones. GTFO for god's sake and quit crying about immigration, we lose thousands over here your speaking one breath.
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