The Inquisition [Concluded]

[Myrddraal]

I don't get it... what is it that makes me a good lynch candidate? You might disagree with my arguments regarding Monty, but how does that translate into a vote for me?

[Myrddraal]

The tally as I make it:

Voter	Votee
Autolycus			Myrddraal	Sooh	ElBarto	Montmorency
El Barto	Myrddraal		5	2	2	1
GeneralHankerchief	Sooh
Golden1Knight	El Barto
Ituralde	Sooh
Johnhughtom
Landlubber	Myrddraal
Montmorency	Myrddraal
Myddraal	Montmorency
Nightbringer	Myrddraal
Sooh	Myrddraal
Zack	El Barto

I have highlighted in bold the names of those who were not present at the townie protection of Visor, for your consideration.

I'm still a little bit taken aback by this turn of events.

Monty has been caught out with incorrect scans. I've listed half a dozen other examples of suspicious behaviour on his part, about half of which he has addressed, mostly by dismissing them with no counter-argument other than to blame me. His defence is to accuse his accuser for all of his own inconsistencies.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I am going to laugh so hard when the game ends and it gets revealed that both of you were town.

[Montmorency]

His defence is to accuse his accuser for all of his own inconsistencies.

Precisely.

Monty has been caught out with incorrect scans.

Incorrect? PIS.

[Myrddraal]

Incorrect? PIS.

I'm sorry, I don't speak acronym.

I am going to laugh so hard when the game ends and it gets revealed that both of you were town.

I wish I could believe it, but I can't reconcile it with the evidence in front of my eyes.

[Sooh]

I don't get it... what is it that makes me a good lynch candidate? You might disagree with my arguments regarding Monty, but how does that translate into a vote for me?

I don't disagree with your points, but as I see it if Monty is the scanner then somebody who knows who he's scanning has to be the one who gives the misreadings about said person as well. I figured that maybe eliminating those people would give correct scans. Of course then that would mean we would have to believe that mafia wouldn't kill Monty once he has outlived his purpose as someone who can be used to frame innocents. It's a tough call. Monty could also be mafia from where I stand, but I think perhaps this is a better way to go in terms of eliminating mafia.

[Myrddraal]

Right, so you accept that in order for there to be a 'forger' role in this game, they would need to forge both alignment and previous night actions (as this is what Monty claims to get, although he regularly forgets about the past night actions bit). To do this the forger would need to know who was being targeted for a scan by Monty.

It follows that it must be someone who knows who Monty is going to scan. For the record, the only scan I have had any idea about in advance is last-nights' scan (GH told me he had asked Monty to scan you).

When Monty 'outed' DC as scum, he correctly stated that he had done nothing that night. So the person doing the forgery would have to have correctly guessed that dcmort would be inactive that night. Incidentally, if there is a serial killer still alive out there who attacked Monty, you must have known at that stage that Monty was making it up.

It's all very very far fetched. Surely it's much more likely that Monty is leading the town by the nose?

I don't really doubt that Monty has some tracking ability (it would have been incredibly bold to fabricate a tracker role from day 1 without something to back it up). But with both edse and Sooh, his 'results' have been contradicted by the in-game write-ups. I suggest that he is a Mafia aligned or independent (non-town) tracker with his own agenda, making up results when it suits him, and getting caught-out in the process.
@Montmorency, I'm still curious about the 'ho-hum' result you say you got for both Sooh and Edse, despite being very clear and specific at the time of your Edse accusation.

[Myrddraal]

Just to stress the point a little more - let's suppose Monty is innocent, and he will from now on be very carefully keeping his scan targets to himself, and submitting them 5 minutes before the night deadline.

The mafia will surely kill him tonight. An accurate scanner is far to risky for the Mafia to keep around in the late game.

Actually, this should have happened last night... but it didn't.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just to stress the point a little more - let's suppose Monty is innocent, and he will from now on be very carefully keeping his scan targets to himself, and submitting them 5 minutes before the night deadline.

The mafia will surely kill him tonight. An accurate scanner is far to risky for the Mafia to keep around in the late game.

Actually, this should have happened last night... but it didn't.

Under my hypothesis, Sooh knew in advance that Monty was going to be protected (because I had a large group of five on it, auto's mess-up of the orders nonwithstanding) and decided to go for a safer target.

[Myrddraal]

Under my hypothesis, Sooh knew in advance that Monty was going to be protected (because I had a large group of five on it, auto's mess-up of the orders nonwithstanding) and decided to go for a safer target.

Fair point. The Mafia have shown they are able to overcome protection groups, but I suppose in the alternative hypothesis Edse would have been the second Mafioso, and perhaps that would mean they couldn't overcome protection groups any more.

But I really struggle to believe that Edse was Mafia given his presence in the Visor write-up. Monty himself claims that his Edse result was tampered with. In that case, I guess that those that attacked Visor are still alive, but actively chose that only one of them should show up that night to feed the theory of Edse's guilt.

[GeneralHankerchief]

But I really struggle to believe that Edse was Mafia given his presence in the Visor write-up. Monty himself claims that his Edse result was tampered with.

This seems to be a critical point in your argument against Monty, but I admit that I don't really follow. Could you explain in detail what you mean by this?

[Myrddraal]

Edit: accidental duplicate post

[Golden1Knight]

I'm totally confused.

Unvote; Vote: Sooh.

She voted against Myrddraal without explaining exactly why, as if merely trying to save herself. And since she was appointed as guilty by the alleged scan, maybe we should lynch her anyway, for safety.

[Sooh]

I'm totally confused.

Unvote; Vote: Sooh.

She voted against Myrddraal without explaining exactly why, as if merely trying to save herself. And since she was appointed as guilty by the alleged scan, maybe we should lynch her anyway, for safety.

Did you miss the part where I explained? Because I did. One of the people who knew Monty's targets might be mafia, and from what I've been able to find out those people would be Myrdraal and GH. I picked one.

[seireikhaan]

Gathered once more in the courtyard, the royalty and nobility were greeted by such a stunningly pleasant day of weather that they could not help but gaze in aw at the horizon, taking time from their inquisition to appreciate the simple beauty of the world. For approximately four hours, not a word was uttered as all basked in the glory of that which they were a part of.

Of course, all good things must come to an end, and finally Kavehir mustered everyone back to their duties. A vociferous round of debate ensued, with accusations and counter-accusations ultimately resulting in Myrddraal being handed over to the Emperor in chains, all the while protesting the insanity and injustice of it all.

"Myddraal, we have found you guilty of subverting the empire and its citizens. No amount of protest nor coercion on your part will change your destiny," Kavehir proclaimed. "If, indeed, you are innocent, then you will find peace in the next life." With a great swing of his sword, Kavehir sent Myddraal's head fro his neck. "Come, my friends and subjects! Today was a glorious, beautiful day, but let us continue with our progress tomorrow! I am sure Providence will reward us once more!"



Myrddraal 5(El Barto, landlubber, Nightbringer, Monty, Sooh, JHT
Sooh 3(GH, Ituralde, GoldenKnight)
Monty 1 (Myrddraal
El Bart 1 (Zack)






Alive:


Autolycus
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Landlubber
Montmorency
Nightbringer
Sooh
Zack


Lynched:

Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)
ACIN (D3)
Dcmort(D4)
Edse(D5)
Myrddraal(D6)

Killed:

Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Kagemusha(N4)
Visorslash (N5)
Askthepizzaguy(N6)

Attacked:

Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency(N3)
Ituralde(N4)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Neither will I do so should your plan at night "accidentally" backfire and leave me dead.

[Myrddraal]

Oh yeah... the deadli*swish*thunk*gargle gargle*

[Golden1Knight]

Double post, sorry.