IMMIGRATION thread

[Fragony]

Regular police couldn't help it, but isn't a riott-squad supposed to called upon 24/7, who decides that in Germany?

edit, looks like exreme-right found a perfect excuse to attack innocent people. Could you please just don't do that ktxbye

[Husar]

Regular police couldn't help it, but isn't a riott-squad supposed to called upon 24/7, who decides that in Germany?

I don't think so, they have these ready-teams which operate within an entire state IIRC and they call them in advance, e.g. for football games or planned demonstrations, then they show up in force. I assume around NYE most of them were out celebrating themselves, police presence was increased but obviously not enough to deal with an unplanned event of this size. Police have been complaining for a while though that they're overworked just taking care of the regular sports events and so on though, many of them seem to have a lot of extra-hours that they can't take off because there'd be noone to replace them. It sounds a lot like politicians have cut the funding too much to allow the police to maintain sufficient personnel.

edit, looks like exreme-right found a perfect excuse to attack innocent people. Could you please just don't do that ktxbye

Yes, these pansies claim they want to protect Germans or Germany or whatever and then go beat up the most harmless innocent immigrants they can find, little girls from Africa or students or so, people who haven't really done anything wrong. They just create more victims instead of facing actually criminal immigrants (which would still be wrong since the police should deal with them but more understandable), but I guess those would put up too much of a fight for those knuckleheads...

[Fragony]

This? http://www.thelocal.se/20160111/poli...-teen-festival

[Montmorency]

Why do you think she was a communist?

[Husar]

Why do you think she was a communist?

She lived in East Germany. Every true, self-respecting capitalist either fled from there or got shot trying.
It's a shame to commit suicide but when you get shot trying to leave a commie country your family can be proud of you while the secret police torture them.

As for the British police, yes, they also beat people in wheelchairs and shoot innocent men in the back on the subway, have total surveillance and demonstrating where it is inconvenient for the government is illegal. Either way it is less a police issue than a political one where the police have been complaining for a while that they are understaffed, overworked and underfunded. Just like the army and the banks. As we can see, all countries have their issues.

[Pannonian]

She lived in East Germany. Every true, self-respecting capitalist either fled from there or got shot trying.
It's a shame to commit suicide but when you get shot trying to leave a commie country your family can be proud of you while the secret police torture them.

As for the British police, yes, they also beat people in wheelchairs and shoot innocent men in the back on the subway, have total surveillance and demonstrating where it is inconvenient for the government is illegal. Either way it is less a police issue than a political one where the police have been complaining for a while that they are understaffed, overworked and underfunded. Just like the army and the banks. As we can see, all countries have their issues.

The least we can do is stop the bleeding heart liberalism. I am a liberal, but not one who thinks that our culture is at fault for everything. I appreciate the ideals and history of English liberalism, and also that there are worse things out there than us. I welcome all who subscribe to these ideals, in practice as well as in argument. I oppose that which is a substantial threat to the reality of liberalism that reformers have worked for over the past few centuries. I follow Orwell's view that there is a streak in western leftism that seeks to blame everything on the Anglo-Americans, who are willing to spin the despicable actions of foreign governments in order to put the blame on the Anglo-Americans. Whatever our imperfections, there are far, far worse out there.

[Greyblades]

As for the British police, yes, they also beat people in wheelchairs and shoot innocent men in the back on the subway, have total surveillance and demonstrating where it is inconvenient for the government is illegal. Either way it is less a police issue than a political one where the police have been complaining for a while that they are understaffed, overworked and underfunded. Just like the army and the banks. As we can see, all countries have their issues.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

As for the British police, yes, they also beat people in wheelchairs and shoot innocent men in the back on the subway, have total surveillance and demonstrating where it is inconvenient for the government is illegal. Either way it is less a police issue than a political one where the police have been complaining for a while that they are understaffed, overworked and underfunded. Just like the army and the banks. As we can see, all countries have their issues.

Congratulations, you found two cases of the failure of British Police - now explain how the German Police allowed 1,000 men to sexually molest over two hundred women in a public square on New Year's Eve.

If there were Police off duty on the night, particularly riot officers, then this is a failure of Police culture - not politics. If riot officers are not on call it must be because the the Police culture doesn't think it necessary. This is a separate issue to lack of funds or lack of officers generally.

According to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35280386 the perpetrators were mostly North African and the majority of those arrested are either asylum seekers or illegals.

1. million in a year - you can't cope with that. Ask Stilicho.

[Husar]

Congratulations, you found two cases of the failure of British Police - now explain how the German Police allowed 1,000 men to sexually molest over two hundred women in a public square on New Year's Eve.

I agree with Pannonian, except on the Orwell part, it's too much fun to blame Anglos for everything. You nationalistic British people are so easy to bait.

If there were Police off duty on the night, particularly riot officers, then this is a failure of Police culture - not politics. If riot officers are not on call it must be because the the Police culture doesn't think it necessary. This is a separate issue to lack of funds or lack of officers generally.

It seems quite obvious that there was no riot police present, perhaps because it was never necessary before.
And perhaps because funding does not allow for them to be on standby all the time. Should they do 72 hour shifts and work for half the pay? One police officer said the police in Cologne use the maximum allowed number of staff on New Year's Eve, I don't know who exactly sets this number but I can only assume it exists to keep the costs low.

According to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35280386 the perpetrators were mostly North African and the majority of those arrested are either asylum seekers or illegals.

1. million in a year - you can't cope with that. Ask Stilicho.

We could, but not with our archaic non-integration and lack of law enforcement.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

One million people in a year?

Yeah, no. Germany's population is around 80 million, taking in over 1 million a year means those people have no incentive to integrate, they can just form their own self-sufficient community in Germany.

Like I said - ask Stilicho, he tried to integrate a mass of refugees, he failed and then he got his head cut off.

[Fragony]

Why do you think she was a communist?

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-317907

She was probably also a stasi-informer. She said they tried to recruit her but that she turned them down, riiiiiight, instant class enemy

do mind upper left corner 'not varified by CNN'

[Gilrandir]

Sweden now has the biggest gender imbalance in Europe. 123 males for every 100 females. 71% of these refugees are male(they've counted).

I heard that Australia experiences a similar disbalance (though not connected with refugees). Ask them how they handle it.