IMMIGRATION thread

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It is a decent opinion piece. I learnt a new word, Taharrush. Reminds me of similar incidents that have happened in Japan where they do it on trains (for example). Group of people do a wall on a carriage, isolating a woman, then assault her.

it's worth noting that a lot of the pieces he references are from the first week or so after the attacks, before we knew the majority of the attackers thus far identified were recent immigrants from the North African and Levantine "refugee" nations.

So, essentially, he has more information available to him than the Feminists he lambastes.

With that said, however, he is exactly right when he attacks them for conflating "Feminism" and Marxist social thought. Feminists should not necessarily defend minority groups, now should they be concerned with racism or post-Colonialism due to their being Feminists.

The suggestion from British feminists that Germany is a "rape culture" is, from what I know, quite ignorant because it specifically isn't in the same way Scandinavia isn't, more advanced socially than the US and even the UK.

By contrast, most Arab nations are rape cultures, or contain rape sub-cultures. I had to live with a Syrian at one point in university housing. In the end we got him thrown out because he and his friends were a bunch of disgusting animals. They smoked Pot, played Dubstep at all hours at insane volumes, literally lived in filth and the girls in the flat didn't feel safe. I remember being in the corridor once and hearing one of his friends say, out loud "shock her! Rape her!". It was something about a girl he wasn't getting on with - the response stuck with me.

[Montmorency]

With that said, however, he is exactly right when he attacks them for conflating "Feminism" and Marxist social thought. Feminists should not necessarily defend minority groups, now should they be concerned with racism or post-Colonialism due to their being Feminists.

One of the cruxes of contemporary feminism is "intersectionalism", meaning they view all the familiar 'isms' as being interlinked, or even fundamentally the same phenomenon. Moreover, contemporary feminism in the world - including in the United States - draws mostly from post-war Continental philosophy, which on its own developed various elements of old-school Marxist thought in ways that the old-school Marxists themselves disliked (and still disagree with, wheresoever they remain).

In other words, you are out of touch. The classical (now "conservative") feminism you have in mind is overshadowed by the dominance of post-modernists.

[Greyblades]

One of the cruxes of contemporary feminism is "intersectionalism", meaning they view all the familiar 'isms' as being interlinked, or even fundamentally the same phenomenon.

indeed, that mode of thought is generally responsible for several ideological splits.

The Internet athiesm community did not weather intersecionality well; internet community leaders and forum admin started demanding followers conform to otherwise unrelated ideological standards of behavior and ended up driving away a majority of thier membership

In other words, you are out of touch. The classical (now "conservative") feminism you have in mind is overshadowed by the dominance of post-modernists.

Which is one of the reasons more and more people refuse to identify as feminists, moving on to more classical terms like egalitarian.

[Pannonian]

indeed, that mode of thought is generally responsible for several ideological splits.

The Internet athiesm community did not weather intersecionality well; internet community leaders and forum admin started demanding followers conform to otherwise unrelated ideological standards of behavior and ended up driving away a majority of thier membership

Which is one of the reasons more and more people refuse to identify as feminists, moving on to more classical terms like egalitarian.

It's a common theme among the different mainstream political movements/philosophies in the UK that they make their greatest demands on themselves (per individual), whilst respecting the right of others to disagree. Hence you have that arch-Tory, the Duke of Wellington, advising fellow aristocrats to do their utmost for the country before assuming the right to put themselves about, and that arch-socialist George Orwell admitting that the English nobility, if nothing else, are singularly enthusiastic about putting themselves in the position of greatest danger. In more recent times the most hardline socialists of the Labour party were usually on good terms with the most conservative Tories of the Conservative party. It's the hardline neo-liberals who scream "Me me me" (epitomised by Thatcher) and the monolithic tendencies of fringe groups on the left and right whom I despise. Both impinge on the principle that's one's rights end where those of others begin. You want rights? What are your responsibilities? Why aren't you taking on more?

[Montmorency]

In the same vein, I can appreciate this sentiment:

You want rights? What are your responsibilities? Why aren't you taking on more?

[Greyblades]

Oh good... its not like I cant read german or anything.

https://translate.google.com/transla...-mehr-aus.html

[Gilrandir]

Oh good... its not like I cant read german or anything.

https://translate.google.com/transla...-mehr-aus.html

Maybe it is just me (or my computer, to be precise), but if I open a link with an article in an unknown language I get a small window in the upper right screen corner which offers to translate it into a language from the drop down menu.

[Greyblades]

Its you, I dont get that.

[Pannonian]

Maybe it is just me (or my computer, to be precise), but if I open a link with an article in an unknown language I get a small window in the upper right screen corner which offers to translate it into a language from the drop down menu.

You're probably using Chrome.

[Gilrandir]

You're probably using Chrome.

Is it available in the UK? If it is, teach Greyblades how to use it.

[Husar]

http://www.welt.de/print/wams/hambur...-mehr-aus.html

The reactionaries gaining power is preferable to giving into these unwashed masses.

Bring on the fascism.

There need to be execution rooms at every immigration place.
But we have been pussified by all the luxury from America, we used to live from iron and steel but now we get US-engineered plastic phones from China that do all the work for us and we look at so many photos and videos of kittens on them that we just ARE the victim culture some of these immigrants take us for.

Kill them all and let god sort them out.

[Gilrandir]

The Meyer classification gives the characteristics of apposition and formally distinguishes them from other grammatical relations.

I encountered different classification of grammatical relations within a sentence which divided them all into parataxis, hypotaxis (which includes what Meyer terms complementation, modification, apposition and so on) and predication. So it is a matter of taste.

BUT once again, I spoke not of RELATIONS, but of a SENTENCE PART. The same relations may connect different sentence parts. For example, the relation of coordination/parataxis may connect homogeneous subjects, predicates, objects, etc.

To highlight the difference in perspectives then, "the poet Burns/Pushkin" is not considered appositive here.

Those excerpts that you cite seem to expose total agreement between my and Meyer's opinion on apposition AS A SENTENCE PART, since he (she?) considers both Burns/Pushkin examples the cases of apposition.


As for a different perspectives, I absolutely agree with the wording NOW. We should have spoken about PERSPECTIVES, or VIEWS of the phenomenon in which case such words as "wrong" or "invalid" are not applicable.

I had to live with a Syrian at one point in university housing. In the end we got him thrown out because he and his friends were a bunch of disgusting animals. They smoked Pot, played Dubstep at all hours at insane volumes, literally lived in filth and the girls in the flat didn't feel safe. I remember being in the corridor once and hearing one of his friends say, out loud "shock her! Rape her!". It was something about a girl he wasn't getting on with - the response stuck with me.

Now you will see something like "it's a separate/nonsymptomatic case that proves nothing" as a response.