IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

OH THE IRONY

Memba this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...y.kateconnolly

Unlike in Germany, there are jobs aplenty in Switzerland - and the Swiss pay up to a third more, taxes are lower and the social welfare system is better than Germany's.

Swiss chat shows and documentaries have also taken up the call, 'Germans are taking away our jobs', while some newspapers are even running regular anti-German stories with such headlines as 'A German stole my girlfriend'.
[...]
But German Anja Grob, 47, who works in Basle, said the thick-skinned Germans were unlikely to stop coming. Switzerland's neutrality, she believed, was the biggest pull: 'A country that has not been at war for centuries is really something that Germans admire greatly.'

[Fragony]

Memba this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...y.kateconnolly

but but but... that changes everything! Suddenly there is no more an uncontrollable influx of people there simply is no future for. It's better if they know that prior to trying, for everybody.

[Husar]

but but but... that changes everything! Suddenly there is no more an uncontrollable influx of people there simply is no future for. It's better if they know that prior to trying, for everybody.

Why can every country on earth have people with no future but we can't?

[Fragony]

Why can every country on earth have people with no future but we can't?

Because we could but won't? Isn't it a bit cruel to give false hope in the end. We both know that it was a bad idea comming here, everything they once had is useless here, a Syrian brain-surgeon who lost everything is still going to be sleeping in one of the hundreds of beds in a gym. All we can do is mob it up and throw it in a bucket in the end, we can't provide what they think we can.

[Greyblades]

...really? Is the syrian standards of of brain surgery outdated or something?

[Snowhobbit]

...really? Is the syrian standards of of brain surgery outdated or something?

No, but the German bureaucracy is overworked beyond reason, and before you get to do brain surgery you probably have to verify your education and experience etc. I would guess it takes 2-3 years until he is anywhere close to where he would want to be.

[Husar]

Because we could but won't? Isn't it a bit cruel to give false hope in the end.

What false hope? If they actually flee from a war we offer them a chance to get a life here. I'm not aware anyone from here offered them much more.

We both know that it was a bad idea comming here, everything they once had is useless here, a Syrian brain-surgeon who lost everything is still going to be sleeping in one of the hundreds of beds in a gym. All we can do is mob it up and throw it in a bucket in the end, we can't provide what they think we can.

Now you're confusing what is achievable in the short term and what is achievable in the long term. A brain surgeon can get a job here in the long term. Other people can't, there was a story of an Afghan who hoped to get a better job here but was disappointed and left again. The German government now pays the Afghan government to advertise their own country so fewer people come here. The thing is that when people have no hope in their own country, they usually look elsewhere, it is not new and merely human nature, nothing we can do.

[Fragony]

Of course people have always looked for better places, but the current situation is different, they come here en-masse because the childless mutti invited them here. There is no precedent to this. The brain-surgeon was sarcasm most migrants have little to no education at al. Almost all young men who have no hope of getting a job or a woman, bound to get frustrated. That's the long-term

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

Of course people have always looked for better places, but the current situation is different, they come here en-masse because the childless mutti invited them here. There is no precedent to this. The brain-surgeon was sarcasm most migrants have little to no education at al. Almost all young men who have no hope of getting a job or a woman, bound to get frustrated. That's the long-term

You don't think that the movement "en-masse" has rather more to do with the places they used to live being bombed into oblivion? You understand that whatever Merkel said, that leads to you referring to her with such misogynistic flourish, was a reaction to a situation of the movements of people en-masse....so they were already moving.