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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not warzones, just assasinating key figures
    How would one go about that?
    Make a law that says the government can assassinate citizens if the government thinks they are a threat to society?
    And how do we assassinate the key figures we don't even know about?
    And if we already know about them, why don't we just arrest them as that would not require any changes whatsoever?
    And doesn't that already happen all the time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    How would one go about that?
    Make a law that says the government can assassinate citizens if the government thinks they are a threat to society?
    And how do we assassinate the key figures we don't even know about?
    And if we already know about them, why don't we just arrest them as that would not require any changes whatsoever?
    And doesn't that already happen all the time?
    Told you I would agree with your objections, you are right on all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowhobbit View Post
    Was my estimation of what Zhirinovsky said correct? And who are they?

    Scoring cheap domestic points on a foreign tragedy is sadly all too common, and can especially be expected of a Russia which has decided to try to reclaim its former super-power status. Fortunately there are more sane and level-headed politicians, such as the Moscow Mayor and Mr Putin himself.
    If you are really interested in Zhirinovsky you can avail yourself of the opportunities internet provides. He is like a revved up version of Trump. But to completely disregard his looney ideas and statements would be wrong. Putin tolerates him to have him as a contrast to himself as if saying: "See what nutjobs may come to power if I step down?" Plus Zhirinovsky's statements and escapades serve as a kind of probing action - to see how the public would react and whether it is worth to proceed in this direction.

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    Taking a broader view, more international cooperation against terrorism is needed to stop the mindless violence which strikes all over the world. Russia, Asian countries and not the least the Arab world which is the main financier of this madness.
    You are deeply mistaken if you believe that Europe can put a halter on terrorism WIHTHIN the EU if it enlists the help of any outsiders, still less of Russia. No one can deal with terrorism in Europe except Europe itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    If you are really interested in Zhirinovsky you can avail yourself of the opportunities internet provides. He is like a revved up version of Trump. But to completely disregard his looney ideas and statements would be wrong. Putin tolerates him to have him as a contrast to himself as if saying: "See what nutjobs may come to power if I step down?" Plus Zhirinovsky's statements and escapades serve as a kind of probing action - to see how the public would react and whether it is worth to proceed in this direction.



    You are deeply mistaken if you believe that Europe can put a halter on terrorism WIHTHIN the EU if it enlists the help of any outsiders, still less of Russia. No one can deal with terrorism in Europe except Europe itself.
    No thanks all the same, I read about enough crazies just keeping up with politics which actually impacts my life, don't follow Trump nonsense either.

    Oh? And here I thought terror networks were international things which different intelligence agencies can all gather Intel on, that occasionally Russia bombed them a couple of weeks ago, and that with the loss of a passenger jet Russia might be motivated to hate ISIS on a personal level. But you are of course right, terrorism is exclusively a European issue and will forever only be a European issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowhobbit View Post
    Oh? And here I thought terror networks were international things which different intelligence agencies can all gather Intel on, that occasionally Russia bombed them a couple of weeks ago, and that with the loss of a passenger jet Russia might be motivated to hate ISIS on a personal level. But you are of course right, terrorism is exclusively a European issue and will forever only be a European issue.
    I never claimed terrorism was exclusively a European issue. I said that those terroristic attacks that happened in Europe are performed by the EU citizens, so dealing with them is what European countries should learn to do. If you think that Russia can help to sort things out in Muslim suburbs of European capitals then Or do you mean that Russia can order its tame European terrorists to stop bombings in exchange for concessions in Ukraine or elsewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I never claimed terrorism was exclusively a European issue. I said that those terroristic attacks that happened in Europe are performed by the EU citizens, so dealing with them is what European countries should learn to do. If you think that Russia can help to sort things out in Muslim suburbs of European capitals then Or do you mean that Russia can order its tame European terrorists to stop bombings in exchange for concessions in Ukraine or elsewhere?
    It is my understanding the the FSB (or whatever it is they are called now, formerly KGB) is a somewhat large and well-funded organization with experience on dealing with terrorism. There might be both lessons to learn (such as don't gas a hostage scene and not tell the medical respondents what you use), information gathered on targets or terror cells, etc, etc. Not to mention that I believe they were in Syria recently dropping bombs? I presume Russian bombs can also kill terrorists. I do not believe that Europe should engage in concessions for Crimea in turn for our own needs. But I do believe that terrorism is a global problem and that it requires global cooperation to be stamped out as the threat it is today, worldwide.

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    Just for musing, you find the terrorist who was involved. In his safehouse you find explosives, weapons and detonaters.

    You A, understand that safehouses are used by multiple persons.
    You B, don't understand that and think questioning for an hour is sufficient.

    Guess what option the Belgium police picked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    If you are really interested in Zhirinovsky you can avail yourself of the opportunities internet provides. He is like a revved up version of Trump. But to completely disregard his looney ideas and statements would be wrong. Putin tolerates him to have him as a contrast to himself as if saying: "See what nutjobs may come to power if I step down?" Plus Zhirinovsky's statements and escapades serve as a kind of probing action - to see how the public would react and whether it is worth to proceed in this direction.

    You are deeply mistaken if you believe that Europe can put a halter on terrorism WIHTHIN the EU if it enlists the help of any outsiders, still less of Russia. No one can deal with terrorism in Europe except Europe itself.
    The main problem is that the problematic culture vigorously maintains a link with the outside version, and holds the outside version as the purer form to be aspired to. While the outside version progressively becomes crazier and crazier. It has a somewhat naive view of how things may be resolved, but Pratchett's Thud! is an accurate portrayal of the problem as it exists in the UK, and is probably recognisable to other European countries as well.

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