Mass Shooting in Orlando become's USA's worst.

[InsaneApache]

Owen Jones's head just exploded on Sky News tonight.

People are people no matter what their sexuality is.

[Husar]

Owen Jones's head just exploded on Sky News tonight.

People are people no matter what their sexuality is.

Complete trainwreck, that entire "discussion"...

[Gilrandir]

Wonder if the US is going to ramp up the anti-ISIS campaign like France did after the Paris attacks.

Remind me what France's campaign amounted to.

[HopAlongBunny]

Very sad

[Fragony]

Remind me what France's campaign amounted to.

Isn't any. Police is on high-alert though. Right-wing parties aren't surprised at all that this happened, nobody should. If you think islam belongs here it's islam that you get, to you utmost surprise, yes you as well, they do not like you, It is what it is. It's a hostile ideogie with a limb dick but with all the cruelty to compemsate, how can anyone not get that, ir's gong to be much worse,

[Slyspy]

Isn't any. Police is on high-alert though. Right-wing parties aren't surprised at all that this happened, nobody should. If you think islam belongs here it's islam that you get, to you utmost surprise, yes you as well, they do not like you, It is what it is. It's a hostile ideogie with a limb dick but with all the cruelty to compemsate, how can anyone not get that, ir's gong to be much worse,

In this case it seems at this early stage to be a young man with mental issues latching on to something which he can hate so as to externalise his problems and then connecting it with something "bigger" than he is in an attempt to make his subsequent actions mean something.

[Fragony]

In this case it seems at this early stage to be a young man with mental issues latching on to something which he can hate so as to externalise his problems and then connecting it with something "bigger" than he is in an attempt to make his subsequent actions mean something.

Almost thirty, is that a young man. Maybe, just maybe, it's just what it is. If something does the same tning everywhere it is, can we please consider that it's the exact same thing causing it, or at least muse. Bit of a trach-record the islam, especially compared to hmmmmmmmmmm no nothing really. Older societies had an excuse but the islam exists in a modern age and can't handle not being able to handle the pace. All spite. Must be hard to feel superior when the time proves you wrong.. Let's take ki out on innocents who only hurted your self-esteem

[Lizardo]

Lets give our guns away and pray away ISIS. Gun control is not going to work mateen had security clearance. G4S didn't want to fire him even though numerous complaints about his fantasising about killing kuffars and killing gays. One employee left as he couldn't take it anymore G4S didn't want to fire him because there might be Muslim backlash and a lawsuit. You can't ban all Muslims from guns that's profiling etc. Etc. Guns and Islam are here to stay in america get used to it. Tool up I.e. obtain a concealed carry or become extinct. Political correctness prevented mateen from being revoked security clearance and being fired and reported to police. Problem isn't guns its Fundamentalist Islam if guns were banned in america he would of used a bomb which he did but failed to explode or he would use a knife or run you over like in Israel.

Just saw Owen Jones go full retard.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

People are people no matter what their sexuality is.

That you feel the need to say this at all -- that it is not so basic a 'given' as to be unconsidered -- is a little saddening. Sadly, I think you are right that it still DOES need to be said.

[Gilrandir]

Well, there is this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-the-shooter/

I wonder, what they would be doing if they were not so pious?

I'm sure you can find plenty of examples where a religious community supported the victims and their families. Like I said: religion is a catalyzer - it can help you move on the way you have chosen, whether the way of the evil or the way of the good.

[CrossLOPER]

I'm sure you can find plenty of examples where a religious community supported the victims and their families. Like I said: religion is a catalyzer - it can help you move on the way you have chosen, whether the way of the evil or the way of the good.

That's kind of self-defeating. It is as if you design a car bumper stuffed with explosives.

[HopAlongBunny]

Samantha Bee get to the point:

[Greyblades]

Samantha Bee get to the point:

It is good to see samantha still doing good work after having to jump off the the daily show before it crashed and burned.

[Slyspy]

It is good to see samantha still doing good work after having to jump off the the daily show before it crashed and burned.

That was good work?

[Gilrandir]

That's kind of self-defeating. It is as if you design a car bumper stuffed with explosives.

You seem to think that religion is an agent and it moves people like pieces on the chessboard. In my opinion religion is a game people play, so if a person kills somebody with a chessboard, do we blame the chessboard?

[rajpoot]

IMO it does not so much as move people as it gives them reason to justify doing what they did. Of course anything can be twisted and misinterpreted to justify wrong doings, but to go back to the chessboard, I'd say that I'd rather have a roll up chess mat than a wooden board with hard corners that can be used to hit someone really hard.

[Gilrandir]

IMO it does not so much as move people as it gives them reason to justify doing what they did. Of course anything can be twisted and misinterpreted to justify wrong doings, but to go back to the chessboard, I'd say that I'd rather have a roll up chess mat than a wooden board with hard corners that can be used to hit someone really hard.

I believe everything is decided before a person takes up a religion. He approaches his spiritual conversion with a baggage of values and preconceived attitudes. If those are initially well-meaning religion gives him a push in one direction (charity, mercy, tolerance and so on), if it is otherwise religion gives him a push in the opposite (violence, hate of opponents). Every person selects whatever tenets chime with his inner self, and religion has all kinds of them.