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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Yes, of course.
    Little obvious about that.

    The most important part I would say, though, was how many of the AfD voters actually take to the streets. If it's just a small fraction of them, then judging the opinion of the average AfD voter by the protest signs carried in demonstrations might not be that accurate (of course, it might not be that accurate, regardless). As a party gets more mainstream, so may its voters.
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    Default Re: Is Political Arrogance dragging Europe to the Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Little obvious about that.

    The most important part I would say, though, was how many of the AfD voters actually take to the streets. If it's just a small fraction of them, then judging the opinion of the average AfD voter by the protest signs carried in demonstrations might not be that accurate (of course, it might not be that accurate, regardless). As a party gets more mainstream, so may its voters.
    I wouldn't worry about them they are harmless. They are a bit like Wilder's party here, populists. One should wonder why populism is such a nasty word for some some. For who is it a nasty word? Gaius Grachus was called a populist by hissing senators when he questioned the landgrabs at the time. Populists are people who aren't good old boys

    @Rory, what's in a word, a phobia is an irrational fear, not a pervectly valid concern, case dismissed. I wish I had a way to put on my wizard-hat, take out my wand, and just cast rediculous
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    Default Re: Is Political Arrogance dragging Europe to the Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Little obvious about that.

    The most important part I would say, though, was how many of the AfD voters actually take to the streets. If it's just a small fraction of them, then judging the opinion of the average AfD voter by the protest signs carried in demonstrations might not be that accurate (of course, it might not be that accurate, regardless). As a party gets more mainstream, so may its voters.
    I'm not trying to prove that every last AfD voter does this or that, think about it as a trend. A trend can be accurate even though there are several data points that don't fit.

    http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/politi...dimap-100.html

    Und hier gibt es eine übergreifende Gemeinsamkeit: "Der AfD-Wähler ist ein Zukunftsskeptiker, also sehr beunruhigt über die Verhältnisse im Land. Wir sehen eine ausgeprägte Ausländerangst bis Ausländerfeindlichkeit, eine ausgeprägte Islamangst beziehungsweise Islamfeindlichkeit."
    Translation: And here there is an overarching similarity: "The AfD-voter is a sceptic of the future, that is, very worried about the state of the country. We see a pronounced fear of foreigners up to hostility towards foreigners, a pronounced fear of islam and accordingly hostility towards islam."

    Coming from the guy who conducted some polls on a voting day in Saxony-Anhalt. I'm sure you could come up with some "mights" on why the poll "might" not be representative, but you could also see a trend over all my links that leads to the conclusion that a lot of people vote for the AfD because they simply fear foreigners more than you fear hamburgers.


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    Default Re: Is Political Arrogance dragging Europe to the Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I'm not trying to prove that every last AfD voter does this or that, think about it as a trend. A trend can be accurate even though there are several data points that don't fit.

    http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/politi...dimap-100.html



    Translation: And here there is an overarching similarity: "The AfD-voter is a sceptic of the future, that is, very worried about the state of the country. We see a pronounced fear of foreigners up to hostility towards foreigners, a pronounced fear of islam and accordingly hostility towards islam."

    Coming from the guy who conducted some polls on a voting day in Saxony-Anhalt. I'm sure you could come up with some "mights" on why the poll "might" not be representative, but you could also see a trend over all my links that leads to the conclusion that a lot of people vote for the AfD because they simply fear foreigners more than you fear hamburgers.
    So we have their conclusions, though it would be more interesting to see their raw data; to get a sense of how and why they've classified people.
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