Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Dp101]

What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

Do you buy the claim here?

[Dp101]

Do you buy the claim here?

Claim makes me more suspicious if it was done to evade trackers.

[Stork]

Claim makes me more suspicious if it was done to evade trackers.

no way this can be a real thought egads

[Dp101]

no way this can be a real thought egads

Sorry, let me clarify. Claim does not make him mafia, but can make him look less suspicious later. I still think he is town.

[CrimsonFox]

where IS everybody

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, let me clarify. Claim does not make him mafia, but can make him look less suspicious later. I still think he is town.

This doesn't play with the above:

What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

[Dp101]

This doesn't play with the above:

Don't see why.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't see why.

You said Fox was likely scum in the world where spaceman was town (which you believed) and then you said Fox was still probably town in reaction to his claim.

[Dp101]

You said Fox was likely scum in the world where spaceman was town (which you believed) and then you said Fox was still probably town in reaction to his claim.

Didn't say he was probably scum, just that him being scum in that world was more likely. Also, called it.

[novice]

Didn't say he (CrimsonFox) was probably scum, just that him being scum in that world was more likely.

Yes, you did. In response to "What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?" you said

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

As in, those are the top scum in that world.

shocker

probs a good role too

Why this reaction? You went along with the Spaceman wagon initially.

Well, we… saved a vig?

How do you know?

If I may make a request, crimson, can you please shoot stork? He has been looking more and more scummy lately.

LOL, what?

[Stork]

I realised spaceman was likely town when he got lynched

funny how that goes hehe

[novice]

Let me state at this time for the record that spaceman is in no way mafia, he is going down way too easily out of nowhere.

How exactly can mafia prevent this if a few villagers manage to band together, and it's coming out of nowhere? I generally approve of day one ambushes like this, it's almost the only way to lynch scum on day one. I wouldn't have picked Spaceman as the target, but e.g. a GeneralHankerchief ambush would have been great.

Claim makes me more suspicious if it was done to evade trackers.

Yeah... To quote my new top town read:

no way this can be a real thought egads

Sorry, let me clarify. Claim does not make him mafia, but can make him look less suspicious later. I still think he is town.

OK, except you "still" think he's town? Like hanky very correctly points out:

You said Fox was likely scum in the world where spaceman was town (which you believed) and then you said Fox was still probably town in reaction to his claim.

[Dp101]

First of all, I would like to apologise for my terrible behaviour and posting pre and post lynch. It was my first lynch time as villager, and I panicked when I realised that I had no idea what was going on and who was mafia. I'm really sorry for clogging up the thread with pointless ideas that were going nowhere and letting my own internal thoughts unrelated to the current game state flood into the thread. Feel free to disregard every post I made in the last 14 hours, because they are all stupid and useless. That said, I still stand by one thing I said.

How exactly can mafia prevent this if a few villagers manage to band together, and it's coming out of nowhere? I generally approve of day one ambushes like this, it's almost the only way to lynch scum on day one. I wouldn't have picked Spaceman as the target, but e.g. a GeneralHankerchief ambush would have been great.

Personally, I think the concept of a few villagers all deciding out of nowhere to simultaneously lynch someone, and have that person be mafia, is insanely unlikely. Your hypothesis that this was an ambush seems to imply that this was something more than random chance, and I see no way that this wasn't. Which is more likely, a bunch of completely independent villagers all happen to have the same unexplainable lean on the same person, and the mafia has no hope of stopping it, or mafia saw someone with a couple of votes on them and bussed them out of nowhere to completely alter the lynch. While there is no way everyone on the spaceman wagon were mafia, there was definitely at least 2 mafia on that train.

I'm going to take a break from the game for a bit, try and clear my thoughts. I might post a reads list closer to deadline.

[Montmorency]

Yes, Pizza once lynched me as his scum buddy on D1 with no reveals, and shockingly proceeded to solo the game.

Chinese fire drill - rapid last moment switch of lynch targets.

Oh gimme a break.