Futuramafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

My town core right now is Monty-Crimson-Visor-Pelican-Choxorn, though with the caveat that Visor could be potentially powering through and trying to take Choxorn along for the ride. Will deal with that down the line.

[Visor]

My town core right now is Monty-Crimson-Visor-Pelican-Choxorn, though with the caveat that Visor could be potentially powering through and trying to take Choxorn along for the ride. Will deal with that down the line.

if I was powering through I wouldn't have suspected him in the first place

though maybe its fair for you to suspect i changed my game up from champs

[GeneralHankerchief]

You had a game in champs?

[Cuthillius]

And yet in the same breath you are saying that how vehement I am that cute is a wolf is wolfy???

I get that a lot.

[Visor]

You had a game in champs?

T.T

[Cuthillius]

This is not quite pro-level analysis, but yes Chox is probably town.

Apart from that not much happened over the night and I still think we should lynch novice.

[novice]

Look, fine. I can't keep up any longer until EoD.

Crimson should live, as should novice - he is the intermediary between Stork and DP101 (in terms of style and leads, not alignment).

Vote: Riedquat for pocket-work

When staking out connections, commenting on the game course, and leaving a paper trail of interactions does not constitute commitment vis-a-vis plain read lists, then you must participate in some very vacuous games.

Reads are just padding to the real meat of the game. That's my position. Now shoo.

Ok. Truce. Vote: BSmith

Why should I live?

[Montmorency]

Despite my earlier frustration, having you around to complement each other is a good idea until proven otherwise. I can better differentiate you now.

[BSmith]

I haven’t really been able to keep up the past little bit. Can someone paraphrase the leading cases? Is the day really ending in a few hours, or will it be at the same time (8:30PM Central) that the phases have ended previously? Not sure if my countdown is messing up or if it is legit.

I honestly don’t have strong reads one way or the other here. I’m willing to sheep and work to keep the wagons close.

I still have my feathers ruffled by Crimson Fox but I think I am just irked by the way he has gone about things and not necessarily that he is a wolf. That said he should still do as I asked last night and post before the deadline who he targets when/if he gets to target anyone. I thought I had unvote: Crimson, but apparently I did it wrong.

And for those saying I am low content… it is D2. I’m probably higher content than average for me at this point in the game. It just seems low due to the sheer volume in the thread (over 1,000 posts already?!), and the fact that I have been focused on the Crimson Fox situation.

Scum vibes on Visor and BSmith based on the quick reread

Sadly there has never been a Visor/BSmith scum team.

This guy is lock town. Trust me.

Are you a travelling man?

[Visor]

Sadly there has never been a Visor/BSmith scum team.

:( one day.

[BSmith]

...and when that day comes, one of us will be randomly lynched on D1. I can see it now.

[Visor]

...and when that day comes, one of us will be randomly lynched on D1. I can see it now.

it will be just as bad as the time we were both serial killers

[CrimsonFox]

I haven’t really been able to keep up the past little bit. Can someone paraphrase the leading cases? Is the day really ending in a few hours, or will it be at the same time (8:30PM Central) that the phases have ended previously? Not sure if my countdown is messing up or if it is legit.

I honestly don’t have strong reads one way or the other here. I’m willing to sheep and work to keep the wagons close.

I still have my feathers ruffled by Crimson Fox but I think I am just irked by the way he has gone about things and not necessarily that he is a wolf. That said he should still do as I asked last night and post before the deadline who he targets when/if he gets to target anyone. I thought I had unvote: Crimson, but apparently I did it wrong.

And for those saying I am low content… it is D2. I’m probably higher content than average for me at this point in the game. It just seems low due to the sheer volume in the thread (over 1,000 posts already?!), and the fact that I have been focused on the Crimson Fox situation.



Sadly there has never been a Visor/BSmith scum team.



Are you a travelling man?

Ooooooooooooooookay then! Now that the Bonnie Crimson Situation has been thoroughly dealt with, Hows about taking one of your patented long multiquote posts and giving us a nice list of reads. There is plenty to work with. Even a partial list will do.

PS Oak is nice

[CrimsonFox]

This is not quite pro-level analysis, but yes Chox is probably town.

Apart from that not much happened over the night and I still think we should lynch novice.

He still shouldn't live past day 3.
Don't at all let him get far enough into this game that we are forced to choose between inactives and noninactives

[Askthepizzaguy]

How do you feel about Visor reading me scummish for that early stuff?

No offense to Visor, but I'm no longer reading his alignment based off of his day one "suspicions". He has admitted in several games that he doesn't put much thought into them.

And this is a guy I greatly respect for his town and his mafia game. I just know that the good stuff comes later, if it does. Or he's scum.

Or it's that 1 out of 20 really bad town games.

[Askthepizzaguy]

May have meant "effort" there, but the idea is the same. It's gut feelings if that, snap read off of one post to be reversed an hour later, kind of deal.

I can't read someone's alignment based off of what is essentially random noise.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I claimed a vig. Yet there was no shot.

People seem up in arms about that yet no one has actually theorized why

Not a vig, roleblocked, holstered, hit a bulletproof, the list goes on.

Why people want to make a permanent decision based off of one data point, when the answers to the above would become clearer with at least an additional data point, I don't know.

This is like lynching the claimed cop or the counterclaiming cop on day one. It's ridiculous. That situation resolves itself when we have spare lynches.

[Dp101]

I just had a crazy idea. Why don't you lynch me? You will most likely get more information out of it than if we kept arguing in circles about voting blocks and such, and I am vanilla so I will still be able to post. We do lose one lynch day out of it, but we are frankly probably going to lynch a villager anyway, and at least this way we know we won't lose a poster. I'm pretty sure this idea is insane levels of crackpot, but I feel like doing something kind of odd. Thoughts?

[CrimsonFox]

I just had a crazy idea. Why don't you lynch me? You will most likely get more information out of it than if we kept arguing in circles about voting blocks and such, and I am vanilla so I will still be able to post. We do lose one lynch day out of it, but we are frankly probably going to lynch a villager anyway, and at least this way we know we won't lose a poster. I'm pretty sure this idea is insane levels of crackpot, but I feel like doing something kind of odd. Thoughts?

i don't lynch town that's why

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hmmm.... Unless I'm mistaken, it was Visor's Rise o' Teh Snek Cult. Got mowed by winston on the 2nd day.

Not as useful given the short time frame. It's been forever since I squared off against mafia-you. I don't think your meta has changed that much in nearly a decade of playing so I'm trusting what I remember from really long ago.

Pizza is... .decidedly quiet this game, despite his earlier run of posts. At least, based on what I'm used to. Old me would be very suspicious of this, but new me is a bit more lenient on the "rl gets in teh way" excuse than old me. Still, mild suspicion.

I would care a lot more about my post count or length of commentary if I were scum. Been cutting down on my jabber, starting last game where I got lynched D1.

My quality of analysis is proportional to the length of time I'm alive. Running up 300 posts by day 3 and finding no scums doesn't do anyone any good.

Seeing some suspicion lobbed at Cuth. Not totally sure why. Am I missing something?

The activity I was looking at was early to mid day 1. Later on, looking at everything as a whole, it's better.

If you look, do you feel a change, or was it exactly as townie the entire way through? It wasn't, for me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's four more pages before I'm even caught up.

I renew my assertion that me cutting down on my own jabber was a wise course of action. This thread could easily have another 3 pages on top of that just from me talking and people responding to that.

[Montmorency]

Pizza, who do you predict will be lynched today, and why?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want novice and choxorn wagons

Choxorn because low-posting, which is not out of the usual, or because of vote pattern / content of posts? Why that name?

[Askthepizzaguy]

4 Montmorency (@Pelican, @novice, @Dp101, @Murska)

stop voting monty.

I don't think monty really cares about the game when he's scum. From my experience watching him be a SK. I kinda feel like he treats the game as a casual game in either role and gets more hyped up about being town.

I think his pattern this game is the latter. Not saying I've ever been particularly good at reading him, however. I usually don't try.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cuth
DP
Pizza
Pelican
Visor

Crimson

the rest of the world

novice
Stork

Flesh out your thoughts on Novice and Stork a bit. Or link me because I didn't see it, with my apologies for not seeing it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, who do you predict will be lynched today, and why?

I'm not in real time yet. I also don't know what a prediction would do for the solving of the game.

Dinner is coming. You know nothing, Mon Snow-rency.

After dinner I will be able to real time chat. Unless it's super important, lmk.

[Montmorency]

I usually don't try.

I see. Enjoy the meal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i see this in his town range, but way out of his scum range

ymmv

This is true, for what it's worth.

I am not going to start under-posting just because that's not my scum playbook, for the record. That would be the easiest way out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i can't define them

i just think the way he laid out his thoughts over those posts

and the fact that he did it over that many

and his tone

were pure

You just used the scattered thoughts town-tell on me.

I used that in one of the champs games, iirc. I think I could fake this as scum fairly easily, it just doesn't really occur to me to try.

[Askthepizzaguy]

generally i've seen it in a big post with an agenda

It does look like more work was actually done and more thought was expended that way, even if it was the same amount.