Flat Earthers

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Yet that is not supported by scripture.
But I see your point. I therefore amend my initial point from "all creationists" to "creationists who believe in the litteral interpretation and infallibility of the bible in opposition to scientific obsevations"
Though I do think that it wopuld be pretty hard to find a creationist who doesn't believe in the literal interpretation of the bible in opposition to scientific observations.

Depends in how you define 'creationist.' I do "believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of Heaven and Earth, of all things visible and invisible." I do not, however, interpret the book of Genesis literally and believe that the agency of that creation conforms to the sequence of events discovered after the fact using scientific observation.

Any story that is written down is necessarily incomplete and must function as much or more on a metaphoric level then on a physical recapitulation of EVERYTHING that happened in the time of that story.

[Legs]

Depends in how you define 'creationist.' I do "believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of Heaven and Earth, of all things visible and invisible." I do not, however, interpret the book of Genesis literally and believe that the agency of that creation conforms to the sequence of events discovered after the fact using scientific observation.

Any story that is written down is necessarily incomplete and must function as much or more on a metaphoric level then on a physical recapitulation of EVERYTHING that happened in the time of that story.

Which definition do you prefer
A person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account.

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Which definition do you prefer
A person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account.

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect

I suppose either would be applicable to the flat earth crowd.

Yet I believe in a divine agent behind creation, even if I do not subscribe to the agency of creation described in the Bible.

In my case, I am a creationist (believe in some aspect of divine agency) but do not subscribe to any of the particulars you associate with the label.

[Sigurd]

I suppose either would be applicable to the flat earth crowd.

Yet I believe in a divine agent behind creation, even if I do not subscribe to the agency of creation described in the Bible.

In my case, I am a creationist (believe in some aspect of divine agency) but do not subscribe to any of the particulars you associate with the label.

We have long distinguished between creationism and Creationism, the difference being the capital C. Both groups believe in a creator. The difference is in the timespan and how the creation was done. I believe the last pope, a creationist, believed evolution was one of the methods of creation employed by his Lord.
The Capital Cs believe in the literal letter of Genesis: six 24 hour days for the whole creation - mind you, not only the earth – but the entire universe.

[Gilrandir]

The Capital Cs believe in the literal letter of Genesis: six 24 hour days for the whole creation - mind you, not only the earth – but the entire universe.

What makes you think that 24 hour days are meant?

[Legs]

What makes you think that 24 hour days are meant?

Because that is what Capital Cs believe.
If in doubt go to the first link Husar posted and do the Creationist section on Genesis.
It explains all their beliefs, though "explains" might be the wrong word to use.

[Fragony]

Because that is what Capital Cs believe.
If in doubt go to the first link Husar posted and do the Creationist section on Genesis.
It explains all their beliefs, though "explains" might be the wrong word to use.

Most christians know how to take it with a geain of salt, you are being unfair

[Gilrandir]

Because that is what Capital Cs believe.
If in doubt go to the first link Husar posted and do the Creationist section on Genesis.
It explains all their beliefs, though "explains" might be the wrong word to use.

The word "day" (as many others in Bible) may be considered to be used metaphorically denoting an epoch of an indefinite duration. For instance, when we say "In his day he was strikingly handsome" we don't mean he was handsome 24 hours. Or "in Shakespeare's day" doesn't mean that he lived 24 hours, or that a particular day of his life is meant. If Bible has an explicit indication that Genesis "day" contains 24 hours, I would like a quote.

[Fragony]

We have long distinguished between creationism and Creationism, the difference being the capital C. Both groups believe in a creator. The difference is in the timespan and how the creation was done. I believe the last pope, a creationist, believed evolution was one of the methods of creation employed by his Lord.
The Capital Cs believe in the literal letter of Genesis: six 24 hour days for the whole creation - mind you, not only the earth – but the entire universe.

Not trying to be a prick, but I am pretty sure you know that, but do you have a particulary good reason to devide time in 24 hours.

Let's take that you have a perfectly fine Rolex. Instead of waiting for 6'aclock you dive straight to twelve and save some hours but that is just perception. Does anything change (except having to buy a new watch) or did you make a shortcut and really skipped 6 hours, or just your percetion of time