Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Stork]

Crimson flipped townie, and he claimed not to have shot Barto. That leaves SK and mafia.

Reidquat is my current SK suspect. What's your theory as to what happened?

i don't know/care that much given there isn't enough information from the flips/claims to determine it

but if it was a scum kill i would never make it for the obvious reason that it is against my win condition

[Askthepizzaguy]

maybe i just won't shoot anybody, how bout that

I dinna kill no one

because vig's usually kill lots of villas probably esp day one

maybe my scum reads were totally offtrack day one
i was scumreading elbarto a lot yesterday tho...but then they (i guess) killed him.

which makes me scratch my head. if they left me alive cause they expected me to kill him they probably wouldn't kill him themselves.
so maybe they thought i'd kill someone else instead.

also ya know...they could kill a vig...or maybe they didn't believe me or even if they believed me...they might have gone seer hunting.

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[Stork]

It just looks like Stork has been power wolfing all game, unless Cuth is a wolf.

i think you need to reread that article

[Askthepizzaguy]

WARNING

ULTRA BLATANT LIE

WARNING

Warning

Confirmation bias

See previous post

[Pelican]

What? That's actually true. Crimson did not claim credit at any point for shooting Bart.

Everything else coming from Pizza right now might be bs for his wolfish agenda, but Crimson did claim not to have shot Bart.

[Montmorency]

OK, fine, I got that one wrong.

[Pelican]

What? That's actually true. Crimson did not claim credit at any point for shooting Bart.

Everything else coming from Pizza right now might be bs for his wolfish agenda, but Crimson did claim not to have shot Bart.

(this was in response to the "ultra blatant lie" post, I forgot that in this game 10 other people post in the time it takes me to write one response)

[Pelican]

But yeah if anyone wants to talk about fluff without any scumhunting intent, let's talk about Pizza coming into the thread and recommending that we read 'khaan spew, but instead of giving any opinions about that going ham on a wagon that has most of the big guns in the thread convinced already.

[Askthepizzaguy]

OK, fine, I got that one wrong.

Monty, your wrongness did not begin or end there.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But yeah if anyone wants to talk about fluff without any scumhunting intent, let's talk about Pizza coming into the thread and recommending that we read 'khaan spew, but instead of giving any opinions about that going ham on a wagon that has most of the big guns in the thread convinced already.

Oh goody I get to correct you as well. Brb

This is fun, in a frustrating sort of way.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Things I'm thinking now:
1) Visor is dead, gjge. Was about as interesting and insightful this game as the character he played, too. Really left a firm mark on my memory banks, along with all the radical positions BSmith took, and the high level of content from El Spamo. Seriously, townies need to do a better job existing enough for me to even take notice of them.
2) Stork can be scum here quite easily, need to prioritize his iso and see if I disagree with current consensus.
3) Gotta iso Generalhankerchief. Every time I bump into his posts they're unimpressive as hell.
4) Need another look at Cuthillius, I'm about 50/50 on him.
5) Choxorn is pretty meh.

Not going to try to derail the Stork train, but if people have the time, I'd appreciate some help isoing the above names that aren't dead yet.

No scum hunting here, Pelican?

It's just 4 names. No big whoop.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Instead of impotently tilting at guy who will always resolve this game like a couple of nutters, how about either or both of you iso GeneralHankerchief or Cuth or choxorn or anyone. Or at least read my posts or the posts in the thread before spouting off.

[Montmorency]

It's just 4 names.

are they "town/unknown/unknown/town"?

[Stork]

No scum hunting here, Pelican?

It's just 4 names. No big whoop.

well, there is no scum hunting there

you gave a read on a dead person

you hedged a read on me

you hedged a read on gh

you hedged a read on cuth

you gave a read on chox

[Askthepizzaguy]

are they "town/unknown/unknown/town"?

If there's 3 scums then yeah, they are, by definition. Sorry I don't have it nailed down to the exact 2 or 3 remaining.

Most of the rest of the thread has been villagery. Who am I overlooking?

[Askthepizzaguy]

well, there is no scum hunting there

you gave a read on a dead person

you hedged a read on me

you hedged a read on gh

you hedged a read on cuth

you gave a read on chox

Well, if we're just going to straight up lie, sure.

[Stork]

Well, if we're just going to straight up lie, sure.

which is the lie?

[Montmorency]

[Stork]

if you are gonna call "i am 50/50" or "could easily be" not a hedge then i am going to say that you are lying

gh "read" could be arguably not a hedge, but it comes with an out

[Askthepizzaguy]

which is the lie?

Which lie do you want me to waste my time debunking?

The one where you said I gave a read on the dead guy? The only thing I did in that post is note that he was dead.

The one where you said I was hedging on you? Sure, if you ignore 95% of the posts I've made about you today, then I have no solid read on you.

I got choxorn as solidly scum, so that's a read.

The fact that I'm 50/50 on Cuth doesn't mean it's not a read or that it's not hunting for scums.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I have to hard claim everything just to get people to actually look at anyone besides me or Stork I'm going to have stern words in post.

[Stork]

Which lie do you want me to waste my time debunking?

The one where you said I gave a read on the dead guy? The only thing I did in that post is note that he was dead.

The one where you said I was hedging on you? Sure, if you ignore 95% of the posts I've made about you today, then I have no solid read on you.

I got choxorn as solidly scum, so that's a read.

The fact that I'm 50/50 on Cuth doesn't mean it's not a read or that it's not hunting for scums.

i agree the choxorn one is a read

cuth one is by definition a hedge, so calling that a lie is :?

and ofc when i am responding to this particular post which you made at that time, i am going to ignore the posts you made afterwards, given that is the topic of discussion that pelican brought up

you hedged AT THAT TIME, which is important for thinking about your progression and no matter how many words you type you probably wouldn't dispute this


you are free to think my iso is bad or scummy (or both), thats your prerogative, but your analysis of the spew/interactions is more interesting to me because you just said my iso was scummy, where i can view the perspective of the spew/interactions more clearly than i can assess my own iso (probably, i would never read it anyway)

[Pelican]

No scum hunting here, Pelican?

It's just 4 names. No big whoop.

And you choose to go with a weak vote on Chox and tilt like crazy at the guy who's already the leading bandwagon by a wide margin. Let's also not forget about yesterday where you ran around voting for all the lead wagons, two of which were just as lazy as Choxorn.

I'm familiar enough with you as a player that I know you can spout off fairly solid-looking analysis at a whim no matter what side you're on, but your actions demonstrate a lack of investment in who actually gets lynched, or in exposing your supposed targets as wolves. If you want to get people to look at someone besides you and Stork, why do you come into the thread and focus on piling evidence on the dominant Stork wagon? How often are your words going to have to be at odds with your actions before this group of players lynches you?

[Dp101]

If I have to hard claim everything just to get people to actually look at anyone besides me or Stork I'm going to have stern words in post.

Look, I'm sorry, but this town has broken down so much into two factions that I think it has to be you or Stork. Personally, if Stork flips village then I go Winston/You/Novice/lurkers, if Stork is a wolf then I go Monty/General/lurkers. I'm sorry for focussing in so much on just you two, I just feel like I won't get any information until one of you is dead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Certain lurkers are less of a priority than others. Ignore Newyn and Al Sips.

[Stork]

Look, I'm sorry, but this town has broken down so much into two factions that I think it has to be you or Stork. Personally, if Stork flips village then I go Winston/You/Novice/lurkers, if Stork is a wolf then I go Monty/General/lurkers. I'm sorry for focussing in so much on just you two, I just feel like I won't get any information until one of you is dead.

can you go over for sure why you think this? if it is because of something pizza is doing or because of something i am doing and what specifically it is.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's unwise to close your eyes and ears and only look at the people getting votes. Stork flips town, I flip town, then you've wasted a metric crapton of time and other townies died in the interim.

There's more to the game than where you put your vote that round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I always die, flip town, and be silent this game. If you're only looking at me and stork, there's at least 1 or 2 scumbags you're not putting any effort into finding, minimum.

And you're completely arse farked if he dies and is town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I spent 6 hours on this game today, I'm calling it a night. Pile votes on me to get a hard claim, or wait until night is almost over, would be smarter.

[Stork]

its a hugely pro-wolf dichotomy regardless of if you are w or v, though particularly if you are v, because of the way it is framed