Futuramafia [Concluded]

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 22:56

This post is bloody terrible.

"I think Stork will flip Town. ATPG is being voted by towny people - he might be mafia or town. I'm going to say Town, and vote for a person who happens to have one vote on them instead of trying to hunt for someone who might actually be scum."

Calling ATPG and our good General here scum.

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Follow-up:

Granted, I've been miserable on the actual thread detective work in this game (lack of time, etc), but looking at it from a meta perspective, the real lack of any sort of organized resistance to a Stork lynch does not bode well IMO. The closest target is ATPG, whose motives seem legit but eh, I've just seen better from him.

And as for the people voting ATPG, I have Riedquat as lock town (there's no way mafia!Riedquat ever, ever makes those series of posts against CrimsonFox), and like Monty/Pelican for good overall content as well. So I don't see any scum effort in a misdirect there.

This leaves two possibilities:
1) ATPG is scum and is trying to lock this game down right now. He's certainly capable of doing this.
2) ATPG is wrong. He's absolutely capable of being this. (

)

Gun to my head, I think Scenario 2 is the correct one here.

Vote: novice

**GeneralHankerchief** · 09-26-2016, 23:00

Originally Posted by Murska

This post is bloody terrible.

"I think Stork will flip Town. ATPG is being voted by towny people - he might be mafia or town. I'm going to say Town, and vote for a person who happens to have one vote on them instead of trying to hunt for someone who might actually be scum."

Calling ATPG and our good General here scum.

How would this being true change your perception of Stork?

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 23:02

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

How would this being true change your perception of Stork?

If it were true, he'd be Town.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 09-26-2016, 23:05

Originally Posted by Murska

If it were true, he'd be Town.

Interesting, thanks.

Also your paraphrase of me was spot-on, but I'm not sure how it makes me mafia.

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 23:09

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Interesting, thanks.

Also your paraphrase of me was spot-on, but I'm not sure how it makes me mafia.

Hm. The issue is that it's precisely the kind of thing mafia does - you're foreseeing a Town flip and distancing from that wagon while voting for a target that you don't really think is mafia, or at least haven't shown any effort attacking. It's also a good way to defend ATPG (set up a different target) without saying that you're defending him (by flip-flopping on 'he might be scum or not') so that if and when he or you get caught, the other one wouldn't be implicated.

As Town I'd expect the following thought process: "I think Stork is being pushed by mafia here. The counterwagon is ATPG, pushed by Towny folk." At this point there's a split - if you have time, you'll go "I'll analyze the Stork wagon to maybe find mafia there, put up a case to try and push them instead." If you're busy you'll go "I'll follow the people I think are Town on ATPG, though voice my concerns about the lack of other targets."

**GeneralHankerchief** · 09-26-2016, 23:14

If I'm mafia (and so is ATPG), then the easy option to Stork being town is simply dumping my vote on ATPG and calling it a day - especially since I know that ATPG is very very good at wriggling his way out of lynch situations and he won't necessarily be flipped the next day or two.

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 23:41

Bleh, bussing. The high road for lazy mafia.

The question is, if you're Town, why aren't you trying to lynch mafia? Even all these last posts from you are defending yourself against what isn't even a single vote, just a suspicion from one person. If you're town, why would you care that someone's suspicious of you when there's day end nearing and mafia to hunt?

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 23:05

I absolutely must go to sleep very shortly in order to wake up early to potentially assassinate a bunch of my friends on campus.

This is unfortunate, because I'm really curious about how day end goes.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 09-26-2016, 23:06

You just admitted to being mafia.

**Cuthillius** · 09-26-2016, 23:08

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

You just admitted to being mafia.

he said "potentially"

he's probably a mafia that doesn't know if he'll be able to kill or not at any point in time

**Murska** · 09-26-2016, 23:10

In case any of you are serious, or someone in the future skims things, I'm part of my campus Assassin's Guild and we're attempting to catch each other with water guns, nerf darts and other nefarious implements of fake murder at this time. It's not related to the game.