Flat Earthers

**Fragony** · 09-28-2016, 20:31

Ir's really easy to descredit the idea of time and making it relative really. Take a straight line from the norrthpole to to the southpole without considering anything at all, are you travelling time if you do, l. The distance would be nearly a fraction. I don't like thsese idiots but it's fun.

**Husar** · 09-28-2016, 20:39

Originally Posted by Fragony

Ir's really easy to descredit the idea of time and making it relative really. Take a straight line from the norrthpole to to the southpole without considering anything at all, are you travelling time if you do, l. The distance would be nearly a fraction. I don't like thsese idiots but it's fun.

What does a straight line between the planet's poles have to do with time anyway?
Also define travel in time, don't we travel forwards in time all the time?

**Fragony** · 09-28-2016, 22:11

Originally Posted by Husar

What does a straight line between the planet's poles have to do with time anyway?
Also define travel in time, don't we travel forwards in time all the time?

Simply because travelling between the northpole to the southpole in a straight line would get you ahead in our 24 hour system because the distance is shorter

**Husar** · 09-28-2016, 22:29

Originally Posted by Fragony

Simply because travelling between the northpole to the southpole in a straight line would get you ahead in our 24 hour system because the distance is shorter

Lol, no.

**Sigurd** · 09-29-2016, 08:25

Originally Posted by Fragony

Simply because travelling between the northpole to the southpole in a straight line would get you ahead in our 24 hour system because the distance is shorter

I am not sure what you are saying - but it is shorter between the poles if you go straight through the earth - about 12 000 km while a straight line on the surface (doesn't really matter which longitude you choose) is about 20k (18.5k).
The earth is also not completely spherical, so it is shorter to circumnavigate from pole to pole than from east to west (37k vs 40k km). So we shall give the flat earth at least this point. The earth is slightly flatter than a perfect sphere.

**Fragony** · 09-29-2016, 08:43

Originally Posted by Sigurd

I am not sure what you are saying - but it is shorter between the poles if you go straight through the earth - about 12 000 km while a straight line on the surface (doesn't really matter which longitude you choose) is about 20k (18.5k).
The earth is also not completely spherical, so it is shorter to circumnavigate from pole to pole than from east to west (37k vs 40k km). So we shall give the flat earth at least this point. The earth is slightly flatter than a perfect sphere.

Only because it's fun. Take your pencil and just forget that the earth is actually round. Draw a circle. Try to you can proof it. A direct line is going to make it very difficult as you must aplply it to a sphere

**Sigurd** · 09-29-2016, 13:17

Originally Posted by Legs

Or you can follow the one Sigurd posted, which is funny as you earlier said you and he would tear down what I has written . By his comments about Capital Cs and his attitude to that Creationist site he doesn't seem to be much at odds with what I have written.

Oh me and Philip see eye to eye on many things but I am not as confrontational as he is. And I have a slight issue with evangelists (except Rhy - I think he is okay). I will rarely take their position.

I know we have discussed this recently... oh wait

This was not the thread I was looking for though....
Once I showed that the Bible actually teaches (see what I did there?) today's theory on how our solar system was made and here it is: Arguments for an against Creationism... (I think I misused the c vs C words in there somewhere).

Gems found when searching: Evolution and the soul.

**Hooahguy** · 09-30-2016, 23:09

Well this topic has gotten out of hand.

**Sigurd** · 09-29-2016, 13:56

Originally Posted by Fragony

Only because it's fun. Take your pencil and just forget that the earth is actually round. Draw a circle. Try to you can proof it. A direct line is going to make it very difficult as you must aplply it to a sphere

Yes, basic math.
If a circle is 1 in diameter (a line through the circle) the circumference is Pi : 3,14... half the circumference would be from pole to pole (where the diameter line is drawn) Pi/2 or Pi rad.

Problem though - the flat earthers doesn't have a south pole. Their Antarctica circumnavigates the earth, so from their point of view the distance from the North Pole to the south pole is one rad~~ius~~ian. Using our model from above the distance between pole to "pole" is 0,5 ... so you can measure this in real life by travelling from our pole (North of Spitsbergen) and go directly south over Europe, Africa and end up at the ice cap of the south. This distance should be multiplied by 2 and then you plant a flag and start walking along the ice cap and for reference you should be able to walk a distance which is approximately 2Pi rad where rad would be the distance from the Arctic to the ice cap of Antarctica.
Say the distance measured was around 10 000 km. To account for the whole circumference you need this formula 2Pi x 10 000 km = 62 831,85 km

So you shouldn't encounter your planted flag until you have walked (traveled) 62k+ km. certainly not only after about 18k km