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"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Oh, also, I want to frame that post of pure praise you directed towards me. I still don't know why you think I'm confident, but thanks for the endorsement.
Vote: Murska
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Also, you have not been on top for very long. I have had vague suspicions of you earlier, but I don't think I end up actually wanting to vote you until midway through day 3.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Will there be a time when you do? Hard to prove you are indeed the roleblocker if you don't have a record of what you did. Of course you could also be mafia with pizza and came up with this in order to make his roleclaim look good, but that is probably tinfoil territory.
Hold up.
We have 4 dead town roles, one dead third party, one living claimed third party, and 2 living claimed town roles. Including the speculation on Choxorn, that would make 8 or 9 roles in a 22-player game. This is the absolute limit I am willing to countenance: 8 roles.
I don't like it, GH. Besides the superficial unease generated by your character, a jailer - roleblock/protect - is an exceedingly difficult role to demonstrate, and in a game in which the course of night actions is not written up...
I'm not voting you now only because making that claim as you did would be a terrible unsolicited move from scum.
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Riedquat, so if I have that role PM correct, you can only protect once in the game? So by now all you have left is Kleptomania? Please use it on GH tonight. GH, keep Pizza.
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Yes, I have to rebuild the case on Pizza. That vote isn't flying for the moment.
Unvote: Pizza
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Just a hard unvote, no secondary suspect?
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I could have just voted Winston, but I'm going to look at everything again synthetically. I think much of this will ride on who your partnersaremight be.
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I dunno why you're even bothering to remove your vote from me. This tunnel has no turns.
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I said I'd get back to it, so:
This is true, of course. From my perspective I know it was between two villagers and Riedquat, so the mafia probably didn't really care all that much who swung. In these town on town CFD situations I think the late switchers are more likely to be townies than scummies, since the switching tends to attract scrutiny.
Well, dammit. I went back and looked at Winston's posts, and I realised that I really can't figure out why I thought he was mafia. I mean, his votes seem scummy because of the way he has avoided getting in on the big wagons unless it is someone important like Stork going down, but given that all we have lynched is town so far that accusation could be placed upon anyone. My mafia reads of him must have come before I realised that I must have been working with a bunch of mafia and changed my reads around a bit, and I must have just unconsciously kept up that same suspicion. Since I really can't come up with a better case than tone, and tone reads really aren't that critical at this stage, I think I need to go find another target. Sorry for wasting your time with accusations.
Let's start with basics - a headcount:
Good
Riedquat
Montmorency
Prepared for Disappointment
GeneralH
DP101
Novice
Bad
ATPG
Winston
Cuthilius
Pelican
Murska
JHT
Al Sipsclar
Choxorn
Atheotes
Next, scum-team fundamentals: are there 2 or 3 left?
3 total Mafia has been the dominant assumption so far, and it's only gotten more so as the game has gone on. However, with so many roles floating around, I think a 4th (for practical purposes, 3rd) scum becomes much likelier in the setup. If we take that, then perhaps the earlier wagons make more sense - scum has had the manpower to follow a strategy of avoiding concentrations.
Next posts will be vote analysis plus team arrangements. I will speculate on what it would look like for one of the 'unknown' category to be scum.
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returning to the shadows.....
ugh
i don't like either of those claims
but who else
beh
i mean given that one of the more active people is probably scum, we're left with... winston? novice?
i think winston's been towny
novice has been really average the last phase or two
Agree with this criticism of GH.
Yeah, he's not town, he's neutral at best.
You think scum is prone to haphazardly vote for every leading wagon?
Wasn't haphazard. For your wagon specifically, I had it pegged that the BSmith CFD was a maneuver designed to both credibly threaten you and then 'rescue' you. This would create a beneficial Stockholm effect causing you to gain a favorable perspective on Pizza's actions.You think scum is prone to haphazardly vote for every leading wagon?
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ATPG
Winston
Cuthilius
Pelican
Murska
If you say the above people are bad, you might want to try pushing on them.
Oh, wait.
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Correct. That's what I've been doing. Now let me finish my study.Oh, wait.
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meh
vote:novice
right now i don't feel like you want to win
you rarely discuss important parts of the game and tend towards nitpicking and calling people out on insignificant things
i think you might easily be mafia
i sheeped Pizza onto bsmith and kinda regret it more and more
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