Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

Thankfully, we can lynch people like that here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thankfully, we can lynch people like that here.

A smug and tame response.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The theory you don't see:

GH is scum, pizza is town, and that GH is just refraining from blocking me.

Why, because if GH is scum, no scum wants to actually sell that theory. That would mean lynching GH today, which proves none of them innocent.

If GH is town, and I won't lynch GH, then gotta convince GH to lynch me. Thus the missing theory.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's a hankerchief in someone's pocket, and it's not mine.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How about a block and kill on Winston, just in case the kill didn't work? Reidquat stated a protective power. No proof he's used it yet.

Again, theory not proposed.

Just Pizza is scum with GH, only theory. Or just pizza is scum. only other theory. So let's go, thunderdome.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I promise with every fiber of my being that I will make this the most painful and long day you've ever experienced.

[Montmorency]

A smug and bold response.

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[Askthepizzaguy]

The really sick part is I have nothing to do all day and I am at that level of cheesed off where I will sit here and talk to a wall for 8 straight hours.

Don't like it, you can tap out by voting me and putting me on ignore mode.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Boy it sure is quiet in here now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I claim this space in the name of Pizza's town. Crappy though it was, I shall march on defiantly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Guess I'll crank up M2 until some people get online.

[atheotes]

You have me as one of your scums, and picking me over Monty for the lynch.

You're pretty much in all my scum teams as well. If we're both town, game is over.

Do you want to lock that in and thunderdome one another?

I have never seen the point of a thunderdome. I am never going to participate in one. If you think something i am saying doesnt make sense, sure, we can discuss about it.

Atheotes, if you're town, and you think there's any possibility I am town, then guess what, we lose today if you vote GH.

You need to give me a team of three that includes neither GH or Pizza in that list. Otherwise we thunderdome.

If you're town, I need a miracle from you immediately.

How are you so sure GH is not scum?

[atheotes]

Like, Murska's claim was in literally the first post that comes up in a search, because it was his most recent post. Don't tell me that atheotes doesn't know how to iso and look at the very first entry before posting if he cared about that. Asking for help is a scumtell at this stage, because it is a subtle psychological trick to get someone to be on your side. It's the yes technique. Get someone to say yes to a simple request and they'll be more likely to follow up with one that screws you over.

That's marketing.

Reidquat is awesome, but relying on him for parity is suicide.

We have three lynches. As soon as we go -1 townie, the game is over.

It basically says so at the start of the day. It's lynch or lose.

1 townie gone, poof. So we don't have 4 lynches. We absolutely have to think of it as only three.

it says potential lynch or lose.

I promise with every fiber of my being that I will make this the most painful and long day you've ever experienced.

[atheotes]

The theory you don't see:

GH is scum, pizza is town, and that GH is just refraining from blocking me.

Why, because if GH is scum, no scum wants to actually sell that theory. That would mean lynching GH today, which proves none of them innocent.

If GH is town, and I won't lynch GH, then gotta convince GH to lynch me. Thus the missing theory.

I dont get it. Please explain to me why you are sure GH is not scum.

[Riedquat]

thanks.

Scum have cover roles. so i am not going to consider Quat's theory on Murska.

Yeap... that is a good suggestion about that I'm crazy... very improbably is Murska, cover role... So it were Mom's killbots and we are still completely in the dark, Mom and her three sons... bleh...

I also have my doubts about Quat. He needs most of the Robots to survive. if the scum dont have any robots it effectively makes him town. So why would he propose a "scum must be human" theory? Guess i need to read all the claims again.

Good, finally someone questioning me. Scum must be humans as per lore, Wernstrom is against robots and blames them about the global warming, of course if Murska is not part of the scum the theory crumbles down as the pile of crap it is!

But I wonder what is your problem revealing now?

Can we lynch Monty and then Murska, or Murska and then Monty? I'll settle for atheotes if he doesn't change.

Can you at least be less scummy? Based in my own crazy theory the idea was lynching you and then Murska followed by atheotes... Of course, try your best to save yourself from the lynch, but this is far but really far away from your "best"...

Prove me and and the rest of us, my crazy theory is right, prove Murska's guilt with all your ISos and stuff... All I've seen from you this far is you desperately trying to save your own ass not matter how many townies you sacrifice to achieve that.

[Dp101]

Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.

[Riedquat]

Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.

Hold on! There is still time, don't give up! If we get this lynch right, high chances town wins the game, the math about the right lynches left is not completely accurate. :)

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Can anybody explain to me, Winston's role? And why the scum needs a tracker? I'm not trying to defend Pizza, but trying to understand the game.

[Dp101]

Anyone got a link to Winston's PM? I remember that he could scan for robots and had some kind of limited night action immunity.

[atheotes]

Yeap... that is a good suggestion about that I'm crazy... very improbably is Murska, cover role... So it were Mom's killbots and we are still completely in the dark, Mom and her three sons... bleh...



Good, finally someone questioning me. Scum must be humans as per lore, Wernstrom is against robots and blames them about the global warming, of course if Murska is not part of the scum the theory crumbles down as the pile of crap it is!

But I wonder what is your problem revealing now?



Can you at least be less scummy? Based in my own crazy theory the idea was lynching you and then Murska followed by atheotes... Of course, try your best to save yourself from the lynch, but this is far but really far away from your "best"...

Prove me and and the rest of us, my crazy theory is right, prove Murska's guilt with all your ISos and stuff... All I've seen from you this far is you desperately trying to save your own ass not matter how many townies you sacrifice to achieve that.

I a dismissing your theory simply based on your VC and the fact that if the scum were all human, you are not really neutral. Murska has been scummy based on tone. But GH and Pizza are way above him in the POE
What do you think about GH?

[atheotes]

Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.

Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.

So you are going to sheep Pizza again?
i am not able understand your thinking here. It almost seems like you are wolfing openly...

[Dp101]

It has nothing to do with Pizza's read on him, and everything to do with Murska's behaviour yesterday.

[atheotes]

Hold on! There is still time, don't give up! If we get this lynch right, high chances town wins the game, the math about the right lynches left is not completely accurate. :)

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Can anybody explain to me, Winston's role? And why the scum needs a tracker? I'm not trying to defend Pizza, but trying to understand the game.

As i already said, i did not understand Winston's role either. Hence i was convinced his claim was fake.
The scum dont need a tracker. If Pizza is scum, he is probably not the tracker. Do we have any verifiable results from his tracking?
Hopefully i will have some time to read up on a few things tomorrow.

[atheotes]

It has nothing to do with Pizza's read on him, and everything to do with Murska's behaviour yesterday.

So, Murska is your top suspect?
What do you think about GH?

[Dp101]

So, Murska is your top suspect?
What do you think about GH?

Haven't liked him so far, I could see him working with Pelican and faking his claim by claiming actions on his buddy. OTOH I'm tired of losing power roles, so I don't particularly want to lynch him.

[Pelican]

Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.

Can you explain the tone read on Pizza? And while you're at it can you spell out the logic for Murska? From where I'm sitting it's still "lynch Pizza or lose the game" right now, but I don't want to contribute to a town loss because I wasn't willing to consider a world where Pizza is town. If Pizza is town, what's the scum team?

Also, @Murska, I'll ask again: Why did you unvote Pizza yesterday? In fact, can you spell out your whole voting pattern yesterday for us? Because I had a theory for a while that fit strongly with what I know of your town meta, but I don't understand a lot of your votes yesterday, and I don't want to rely on assumptions when I can hear it from the horse's mouth.

Basically what I'm getting at is that, this lynch being crucial, we need complete transparency of thought. "Screw it I'm voting Murska" is not going to cut it, nor are lists of names and one sentence posts with votes.

I have work now, but at the next opportunity I'll be back to spell out my thoughts about all of the remaining players to the best of my ability, and to put forth the case against Pizza as clearly as I can.

[Riedquat]

I a dismissing your theory simply based on your VC and the fact that if the scum were all human, you are not really neutral. Murska has been scummy based on tone. But GH and Pizza are way above him in the POE
What do you think about GH?

Well... heck! I'm neutral and need to save robots and Fry, I really do not see the incompatibility between my role and the scum being humans.

GH is scummy as heck but I do not see a scum GH fabricating those moronic night actions... less yet claiming when he did and without any pressure.

As i already said, i did not understand Winston's role either. Hence i was convinced his claim was fake.
The scum dont need a tracker. If Pizza is scum, he is probably not the tracker. Do we have any verifiable results from his tracking?
Hopefully i will have some time to read up on a few things tomorrow.

It doesn't make sense, right. If scum Pizza didn't track anyone he still got the result from a tracker, Winston didn't lie, he scanned jht, Pizza claimed first Winston scanned jht, so again we are stuck with a tracker being scum... if the tracker is not scum, neither is pizza, or the mafia has a tracker... Now I'm dizzy!

[Dp101]

I see Pizza as town because his little mental breakdown while I was sleeping didn't feel like mafia. Murska is again because of his odd comments on the abortive Monty wagon yesterday, and a general scummy feel from his posts. If pizza is mafia then I want to say mafia are Murska Monty GH and maybe you, but past the first 2 that list is uncertain.

[Dp101]

I would just like to state for the record that when we inevitably lose, you can all blame me. I have done way too much waffling and sheeping this game, and I don't really know how to break out of it.

[Zack]

Tally as of post 2729:

Lynch votes
3 votes: Murska (GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Dp101)
2 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency, Murska)

Voting history:

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