Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Biggest reach yet. You talk so much about power wolfing yet you have a scum team expending all its voting capital on a secondary wagon, at LYLO?

That's probably the weakest and most obviously wrong thing you've said all game.

This is the absolute most basic of the basic tactics. If ANY townie votes incorrectly, and this can be on Al or on Pizza, that's pretty much game.

Giving two wrong answers that people are willing to vote wins easier. If there's only one alternative to Murska, then there's a chance people think Murska is the scummier of the two.

Give three suspects and a false compromise is possible.

Dividing the votes is critical here. Pelican is voting for me, for example, and that's literally enough to cause 4 votes.

Unless town votes for someone and gets 5 votes, it's impossible for town to win except by a coin flip.

How could it NOT occur to you? How is that even possible?

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's like being willing to vote for Pizza or GH when both are wrong choices.

It's the same tactic over and over. Give two wrong choices so some townie latches on to one of them.

@Pelican wake up!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can't do this without everyone in my town here, present, accounted for, and voting!

We're already relying on a neutral's vote! He's townier than you!

[Riedquat]

I can't do this without everyone in my town here, present, accounted for, and voting!

We're already relying on a neutral's vote! He's townier than you!

What were you saying the other day, you couldn't count with my vote for parity?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What were you saying the other day, you couldn't count with my vote for parity?

Yeah, meaning the game is locked / ends if there's not enough townies. For those purposes, your vote doesn't count.

Turns out we did and do need you. The good news is there's really no reason for the scums to kill you even if you vote with town, so if it's a 4-4 tie, and you're afraid that not holding your vote where it is will cost you a win, they have to chew through GH and me first or they will lose.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So you've earned your townie wings in my book.

If you were worried I never call you townie, well, you are one now. Even if you're not.

[Al Sipsclar]

I like Riedquat's paranoid theory. But I'm a sucker for in-universe clues. Even though Zack said that the knowledge of the universe would not help solving the game, he can be screwing with us nevertheless.
What I can't wrap my head around is why Dr. Ogden Wernstrom or Donbot, for that matter, would be "solid" cover roles for scum. For Larry (human) the cover was Elzar (alien). Pizza claimed Kif, who is another alien, so it'd be a point against Pizza.
I've always been Pizza's fanboi, I desperately want him to be town, but I won't regret losing to him, because I've been entertained.

So, Riedquat claimed neutral, and for this to be lylo, we need at least another 3rd party, who I assume is Pelican (Fry). I don't remember Pelican claiming neutral, but no one else counterclaimed.

If not me, not Riedquat, not Pelican, not DP, not GH, not Pizza, we have exactly Murska, atheotes and Monty left. The less-than-solid cover role makes me hesitant about Murska. Monty seems too reckless to be scum. I'm most convinced about atheotes. But I guess I have to do more paperwork to figure out who are the two scums among GH/Pizza/Murska/Monty.

Vote: atheotes

[Riedquat]

4 votes: Murska (GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Dp101, Riedquat)
2 votes: Al Sipsclar (atheotes, Montmorency)
2 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican, Murska)
1 votes: Atheotes (Al sipsclar)

This can go so wrong....

[GeneralHankerchief]

[GeneralHankerchief]

4 votes: Murska (GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Dp101, Riedquat)
2 votes: Al Sipsclar (atheotes, Montmorency)
2 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican, Murska)
1 votes: Atheotes (Al sipsclar)

This can go so wrong....

There's two people on Pizza that probably aren't going to change.

There's three other votes spread around, two of them from people who have lodged utterly WTF votes and promise to come back later to "closer examine the situation".

If Monty switches to Pizza then atheotes and Al Sipsclar could very well jump out of friggin nowhere and put the killshot in on Pizza.

So we're dependent on Monty - whose feelings towards Pizza are pretty well known - and atheotes, who has been top of the class at the Charlie Day School of Wild Card Philosophy, in the final rounds.

I don't think I've ever seen the future more clearly in my life.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like Riedquat's paranoid theory. But I'm a sucker for in-universe clues. Even though Zack said that the knowledge of the universe would not help solving the game, he can be screwing with us nevertheless.
What I can't wrap my head around is why Dr. Ogden Wernstrom or Donbot, for that matter, would be "solid" cover roles for scum. For Larry (human) the cover was Elzar (alien). Pizza claimed Kif, who is another alien, so it'd be a point against Pizza.
I've always been Pizza's fanboi, I desperately want him to be town, but I won't regret losing to him, because I've been entertained.

So, Riedquat claimed neutral, and for this to be lylo, we need at least another 3rd party, who I assume is Pelican (Fry). I don't remember Pelican claiming neutral, but no one else counterclaimed.

If not me, not Riedquat, not Pelican, not DP, not GH, not Pizza, we have exactly Murska, atheotes and Monty left. The less-than-solid cover role makes me hesitant about Murska. Monty seems too reckless to be scum. I'm most convinced about atheotes. But I guess I have to do more paperwork to figure out who are the two scums among GH/Pizza/Murska/Monty.

Vote: atheotes

4 votes: Murska (GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Dp101, Riedquat)
2 votes: Al Sipsclar (atheotes, Montmorency)
2 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican, Murska)
1 votes: Atheotes (Al sipsclar)

This can go so wrong....

The mutual votes between atheotes and Al Sipsclar here are baffling.

[Dp101]

The mutual votes between atheotes and Al Sipsclar here are baffling.

Yeah, EOD was really weird. The behaviour around it is almost too weird to be mafia, because it makes no sense. Found the seeming refusal for everyone to get on one target very odd.

[Montmorency]

That's probably the weakest and most obviously wrong thing you've said all game.

This is the absolute most basic of the basic tactics. If ANY townie votes incorrectly, and this can be on Al or on Pizza, that's pretty much game.

Giving two wrong answers that people are willing to vote wins easier. If there's only one alternative to Murska, then there's a chance people think Murska is the scummier of the two.

Give three suspects and a false compromise is possible.

Dividing the votes is critical here. Pelican is voting for me, for example, and that's literally enough to cause 4 votes.

Unless town votes for someone and gets 5 votes, it's impossible for town to win except by a coin flip.

How could it NOT occur to you? How is that even possible?

Wrong. You create an alternative with one member, not all three at once.