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    Montegro: 622,000 hbts.
    US (NATO) base in Kosovo.
    Really, what would be the interest of Montenegro for NATO? Naval Bases? Croatia would be more than happy to offer that... And Croatia has all the former military naval ports built by Tito.

    The only thing worth to fight for in Montenegro is olive oil and Malboro made in Russia smuggling....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Montegro: 622,000 hbts.
    US (NATO) base in Kosovo.
    Really, what would be the interest of Montenegro for NATO? Naval Bases? Croatia would be more than happy to offer that... And Croatia has all the former military naval ports built by Tito.

    The only thing worth to fight for in Montenegro is olive oil and Malboro made in Russia smuggling....
    hbts.?

    Hobbits? They'd be in NATO in a hot minute if that's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Montegro: 622,000 hbts.
    US (NATO) base in Kosovo.
    Really, what would be the interest of Montenegro for NATO? Naval Bases? Croatia would be more than happy to offer that... And Croatia has all the former military naval ports built by Tito.

    The only thing worth to fight for in Montenegro is olive oil and Malboro made in Russia smuggling....
    So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?
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    So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?
    I think the idea is more consolidation - who isn't NATO at this point? Austria, Switz, Scandinavia, Serbia/Kosovo - after that we get into the direct confrontation (with Russia) territory. Also the symbolic statement given how US-Russia relations have gone since 2009.
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    Left out non-members (disregarding things like Malta):

    *Ireland - also claims neutrality
    *FYROM/Republic of Macedonia - blocked by Greece
    *Bosnia - likely to join in coming years
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    "So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?" No. But is Montenegro joining NATO is so dangerous that some need a Coup to stop it?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    I think the idea is more consolidation - who isn't NATO at this point? Austria, Switz, Scandinavia, Serbia/Kosovo - after that we get into the direct confrontation (with Russia) territory.
    It might be an eye-opener, but, according to the Kremlin, NATO already IS in the direct confrontation territory aka Baltic states and Poland.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?" No.
    You gave reasons why Montenegro is absolutely useless for NATO. Don't they see it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    But is Montenegro joining NATO is so dangerous that some need a Coup to stop it?

    It is a pity you can't admire the uproar produced by Russian media discussing Montenergo joining NATO. The average accusation is betrayal Slavic brotherhood. Given the vitriolic character of the uproar one would think it is one of the major concerns of the Russian government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Don't they see it?
    Is this how you wanna do it? Pass over arguments by supposedly asking "insightful questions" ad nauseum until you simply bore everyone into submission?

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