Tokens of My Confection [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here's something else I'm going to confront people about:

Nervous about me? Afraid I'm going to repeat Futurama?

Well, you have two options. Lynch me before it loses the game when you do, or help me clear myself.

Help me lynch a scum. even if I'm bussing, it's still a dead scum. Help me do that.

PS, not scum this time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I have no path to clearing myself and I can't get my suspects lynched, why am I here?

Remove me or help me. That's all I have for you right now.

[Newyn]

Vote: Scarlett Aria
Open to pushing dp101.
Not going to vote GH today unless it's literally him against me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Al Sips

I really haven't felt great about him and his posts are fairly neutral.

I don't want to resolve between Aria and Al Sips in this order. If one is not an option, the other is not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Scarlett Aria
Open to pushing dp101.
Not going to vote GH today unless it's literally him against me.

Unvote: Newyn

Vote: Scarlett Aria

You just named two scums you'd be willing to lynch. If you're bussing, we'll resolve it in final 3 if they both flip scum.

Until then, I need the votes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm stepping away, vacuuming.

Announcing my absence like I do sometimes when someone is here in real time and I'm in invisible mode and they don't know that I've left.

Is a null tell, but feel free to believe it isn't.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Pizza, you've made 21 of the past 23 posts (24 I guess now). For the love of god consolidate a bit.

[Riedquat]

Gosh Pizza, 7 posts in a row! :(

While I see your point about Newyn do not see anything in the case against Scarlett... do you care to point out where is her wolfy attitude in one or two posts?

[Scarlett Aria]

Pizza look at WoW mafia game again, it's slowly becoming a repeat of that. Otherwise I find it odd that you guys aren't pushing for more from low posters because it seems like not much is being said from them.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Pizza look at WoW mafia game again, it's slowly becoming a repeat of that. Otherwise I find it odd that you guys aren't pushing for more from low posters because it seems like not much is being said from them.

What happened in WoW Mafia?

[Scarlett Aria]

What happened in WoW Mafia?

Short summary was I was town and he was town. I was pretty much playing the way I played here. They started pushing on me while I was pushing a scum that happened to flip SK. It's pretty obvious that we don't quite go about this the same way.

[Scarlett Aria]

Short summary was I was town and he was town. I was pretty much playing the way I played here. They started pushing on me while I was pushing a scum that happened to flip SK. It's pretty obvious that we don't quite go about this the same way.

I was lynched before they got the SK and mafia won that one due to town tunneling town.

[Scarlett Aria]

Gosh Pizza, 7 posts in a row! :(

While I see your point about Newyn do not see anything in the case against Scarlett... do you care to point out where is her wolfy attitude in one or two posts?

What are your top two scum reads at the moment and why?

[Dp101]

If there's a wolf on Zack and it's not Aria, that's your guy. This isn't the same dp101 from last game.

He smells like wet dog.

You are correct, compared to last game I am definitely not playing as well. I think this is mostly due to 2 factors, although neither entirely excuse my behaviour. Firstly, I've kind of been really stressed in my home and academic life for most of this game, and as such I have found it much harder to concentrate on this game and to have the motivation to push people. Secondly, as I mentioned earlier, I tend to be a reactive player, I'm pretty bad at making a case out of nothing and mostly only respond to what is happening in the game. In the Futurama game, I was lucky in that I found something that seemed odd to me early on, which ended up making the game get serious faster, giving me a lot more to work with. In this game, not only do we have a much lower general activity level, but I also haven't managed to find that many statements that I disagree with, and in addition the NKs/flips haven't told us much, so I don't post much because there isn't much to reply to. I don't think it's a good thing that I seem to be incapable of taking the initiative and making cases out of a null town, but I can only talk about the patterns I see in my behaviour, not change those patterns.

[Riedquat]

What are your top two scum reads at the moment and why?

I do not have reads! I only have gut feelings... yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.

Pizza is pizza so I will be always wary of him, and every one pretending to read pizza is also a good candidate, newyn saying his drop in activity is a sign of scum when less than a month ago in futuramafia we had an hyperactive scum pizza is odd at best...

Dp101 is mostly townie but I agree he is not the same townie that played in the other game. Not idea about the rest...

[GeneralHankerchief]

yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.

This is actually a really good point, let me go back and see if khaan was hinting anything further.

[Dp101]

I know this isn't what you meant about hyperactive scum Pizza, but now I have this mental image of pizza on a massive sugar high bouncing round a room stabbing everyone. I appreciate your stance on Pizza though, it matches how I feel about him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

So one thing about khaan is that if he's trying to tell the town something he drops really oblique hints about either himself or his target. For example: one time he had a watcher/tracker role and worked some variant of the word "see" or "spy" etc into every post. So I'll be looking for stuff like that.

...............and he has two posts total.

For sake of completion:

Early D1:

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

I saw you eating that spicy meat-a-ball. In a patisserie, no less! Also, u suck.

Vote: El Barto

I'm not sensing enough proper role play from barto. Why are you not bread, sir?

Possible, possible hit on "sensing" but I think khaan would have needled a bit more if he truly had something on Barto.

Null.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Er, there should be a "Day 2" indicator before the quote where he voted for Barto.

[BSmith]

Vote:Zack

He's being odd this day phase and was not really scum hunting D1

I’m willing to go with vote: Scarlett Aria for this vote. It was tied between GH and Zack at this point, and nearing the deadline. Aside from the GH-Zack negotiations and eventual self-preservation votes, this is the vote that materially enabled the Zack lynch.

Sounds rich coming from someone who was also voting Zack, but that’s the way I see it. Speaking of which…

I would say that BSmith and Scarlett Aria's votes in particular are bad. Scarlett's in its own right, and BSmith's vote is terrible coupled with his followup post where he says he'll be around and open for persuasion on other targets, followed by radio silence.

Vote: BSmith

I was around for most of the day (Tuesday) but there wasn’t a lot of stuff to interact to. I was frankly expecting Zack to push back harder, but he didn’t. I decided to leave my vote in place primarily because of this, and just as Zack himself “fact is vast majority of the game is null for me” fit my perspective exactly.

At EOD my mind was far from this game as I was dumbfoundedly watching a national tragedy unfold.

[Scarlett Aria]

I do not have reads! I only have gut feelings... yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.

Pizza is pizza so I will be always wary of him, and every one pretending to read pizza is also a good candidate, newyn saying his drop in activity is a sign of scum when less than a month ago in futuramafia we had an hyperactive scum pizza is odd at best...

Dp101 is mostly townie but I agree he is not the same townie that played in the other game. Not idea about the rest...

Any vibe or gut with Al or NAC?

[Scarlett Aria]

I find it weird how the lynches are on the fairly active while the kills were kind of quiet. I misunderstood Zack this game and his vote to GH kind of tilted me.

[Scarlett Aria]

@Askthepizzaguy
Your case of me is started on a comment that I found Winston to be slight town but you think was forced. Now it's more like everybody I read town didn't want a Scarlett lynch but now it's happening and you vanish. I'm not sure to call this case stupid or scummy now because your letting others who are less involved in my opinion to get away pressure free.

[Riedquat]

Any vibe or gut with Al or NAC?

Nothing about NAC, seems crazy and townie so far. Al Sip... umm... annoyed at him yesterday with the fixation on Barto's behavior, considering my own change of hearth I don't know anymore.

[Riedquat]

@Askthepizzaguy
Your case of me is started on a comment that I found Winston to be slight town but you think was forced. Now it's more like everybody I read town didn't want a Scarlett lynch but now it's happening and you vanish. I'm not sure to call this case stupid or scummy now because your letting others who are less involved in my opinion to get away pressure free.

Now is happening?

Your pressure tolerance seems very low... but agree in the annoyance of pizza reading you scum every single time independently of your alignment, we talked about that in the other game

[novice]

I was around for most of the day (Tuesday) but there wasn’t a lot of stuff to interact to. I was frankly expecting Zack to push back harder, but he didn’t. I decided to leave my vote in place primarily because of this, and just as Zack himself “fact is vast majority of the game is null for me” fit my perspective exactly.

I would say Zack pushed back hard. He saved us the melodrama but was quite pointed. But either way. You poked the bear to instigate a reaction, got a reaction leading you to keep your vote there, but never shared these thoughts with the town, or Zack. And you also found Zack's perspective to fit yours exactly. To me this feels like you were all too happy to let a Zack lynch idle across the deadline.

I generally prefer it when people give their reasons for a lynch when it's happening instead of after the fact.

[novice]

On another note - BSmith, let me ask you this. Why do you think the Zack lynch was bad?

[Sooh]

Alright. I'm here in real time. Won't have time to go back and do analysis just yet, but I'm here for real time if anyone wants to.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll be on here for a bit.

@Scarlett

I don't know what you're saying in post 563.

[BSmith]

I don’t. All things considered I’d probably do it again. But now that we know he was innocent, taking a closer look at the voting patterns makes sense. Most everything else is still just random noise to me.