Tokens of My Confection [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: NotACop

[GeneralHankerchief]

DO NOT TRIGGER AN EARLY HAMMER.

[NotACop]

Vote: NotACop

Such a scummy vote

[Dp101]

There is no mention of hammers in the op, so I don't think we have to worry about them.

[Newyn]

Vote: Pizza then.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dear oh dear, this discussion seems deserted and depressed.

My distressed brethren, please enjoy the following distraction.

Shall we dance.... delightfully?

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[Dp101]

Pizza, why did you not go after the target you said you would?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, why did you not go after the target you said you would?

Dear Dp101,
I decided differently. The dubious droid was too dangerous to be left alive. Decisively I acted, deftly and defiantly.

[Dp101]

Ehh, you are too inconsistent in your motivations and targets for me. You went off to do whatever you wanted one time, how can we trust you to keep your word again? If you were not outed as a SK, I would give you a much larger benefit of the doubt, but given that you are not town aligned, it is really dangerous to let you do whatever you like.

[Cuthillius]

vote: GeneralHandkerchief

I still think he's scum

I have no idea about pizza, but i kinda liked him yesterday and i think the wagon on him is sketch

i thought the day was 24 hours longer yesterday, or i would have posted again

and yeah

dp is weirding me out but i also think this game looks very towny in comparison to CS

i dunno

[Synecdoche]

vote: GeneralHandkerchief

I still think he's scum

I have no idea about pizza, but i kinda liked him yesterday and i think the wagon on him is sketch

i thought the day was 24 hours longer yesterday, or i would have posted again

and yeah

dp is weirding me out but i also think this game looks very towny in comparison to CS

i dunno

Bolded, otherwise this vote does not count.

[Al Sipsclar]

Let me help you: vote: GeneralHankerchief

Pizza voted Cuth and GH
Pizza was voted by Newyn and GH
Newyn was refusing to vote GH
NAC tunneled on GH D2-D3
Cuth voted with GH on D1 and D2 and for GH on D3
Newyn voted Cuth on D2

Pizza+GH+Cuth/NAC/Newyn

[Synecdoche]

Tally as of post 792:

Lynch votes
4 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Dp101, NotACop, novice, Newyn)
1 votes: NotACop (Askthepizzaguy)
1 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Al Sipsclar)

Voting history:

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Askthepizzaguy

Askthepizzaguy

Askthepizzaguy

NotACop

Askthepizzaguy

GeneralHankerchief

Time Until End of Day 4/Start of Night 4

[Synecdoche]

mod note

@GamerDude will be replacing @Sooh.

Please do not discuss subs.

1. @Askthepizzaguy
3. @Dp101
6. @BSmith
7. @novice
9. @GeneralHankerchief
11. @GamerDude
13. @Al Sipsclar
14. @Newyn
16. @NotACop
17. @Cuthillius

[Dp101]

Let me help you: vote: GeneralHankerchief

Pizza voted Cuth and GH
Pizza was voted by Newyn and GH
Newyn was refusing to vote GH
NAC tunneled on GH D2-D3
Cuth voted with GH on D1 and D2 and for GH on D3
Newyn voted Cuth on D2

Pizza+GH+Cuth/NAC/Newyn

Could you explain this a little more? I don't quite understand your argument.

[Al Sipsclar]

Could you explain this a little more? I don't quite understand your argument.

There might be no clear argument to understand. I'm looking for patterns in the voting history and trying to make sense of them.
There's a proud tradition of scum voting each other. You can remember Pizza and Monty from Futurama.
OTOH, some wolves actively avoid voting their partners, even ignoring them.
Of course, these are not hard tells, and the scum can manipulate them.

So, I'm trying to look at the voting history and see if I can find any patterns that can be explained by the above. More to convince myself than the others, actually. I mostly rely on tone reads more than logic. Every time I try logic, it usually ends in disaster. :(

Pizza is the closest we have to a confirmed scum.
GH is the closest to Pizza in the sense that they voted each other.
Pizza also voted Cuth, and Cuth voted GH who voted Pizza.
This graph can be extended further, but also needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do not designate the detective who disclaims his detective status as definitely a denizen of this diminutive village. NotACop, indeed, dare I say, NotABread either. Dashing my hopes for a town declaration of victory, he dances to village reads and doesn't do his due diligence. A dunce I was for daring to deign him town. Early on, dazzling. Now, dangerous has he become. It doesn't concern me deeply, for I shall be delivered to justice. It's also difficult to describe his deviousness when dishing out D's words that are words that start with D. Others, like the dour GH, decisively indicate scum. But watch for deep wolves.

[Dp101]

Could you please elaborate on why you think NAC is looking worse recently? I do agree that they were doing better D2, but even now they still feel solvey

[novice]

i thought the day was 24 hours longer yesterday, or i would have posted again

What would you have posted?

[NotACop]

vote: GeneralHandkerchief

I still think he's scum

I have no idea about pizza, but i kinda liked him yesterday and i think the wagon on him is sketch

i thought the day was 24 hours longer yesterday, or i would have posted again

and yeah

dp is weirding me out but i also think this game looks very towny in comparison to CS

i dunno

u wot m8

doesn't this look like a scum claim to you?

[NotACop]

"this" being askthepizzaguy's play today

[NotACop]

Let me help you: vote: GeneralHankerchief

Pizza voted Cuth and GH
Pizza was voted by Newyn and GH
Newyn was refusing to vote GH
NAC tunneled on GH D2-D3
Cuth voted with GH on D1 and D2 and for GH on D3
Newyn voted Cuth on D2

Pizza+GH+Cuth/NAC/Newyn

I didn't tunnel anyone at D2, so that's something you're making up.
I had a bunch of people in null group, and thought GH looked the worst of them, for what little there was to go on, so I voted him.
That's about the furthest from tunneling you can come while voting someone.
So you claiming I did seems very stretched or is a display of you not paying attention to things while writing whatever makes it sound like you have actual thoughts.

[NotACop]

Also wouldn't call my vote on D3 for tunneling, he was simply still alive and still where I thought it was best to put a vote.

[BSmith]

vote: Pizza. He has succeeded once again in making the game all about him. Even if his claim was BS, I’m still voting him for it. It also feels like he is just setting up people to get lynched, just like last game albeit a bit more subtly.

[GamerDude]

I am here. Someone cliffs me.

[Dp101]

Well currently, Pizza has claimed SK and another SK showed up dead this morning. Most people are voting him because the likelihood of 2 SKs is very low. That is the current situation, previously there has just been mislynching.

[GamerDude]

Vote: ATPG

ez game

[GamerDude]

Here's why not Cuth based on wagonomics:

Wolves are going to follow a townie onto a mislynch. Simple as that. The first vote is the one that gets a ton of the blame, so does the vote that tips it.

Wolves followed Cuth's bad case. Don't punish Cuth, punish the wolf.

like this entire post is fabricated

There is no way pizza, or anyone else for that matter, is going to convince me this is a genuine thought.

Saying the person that begins a wagon is most often the recipient of the blame is false. Most often they are given the most leeway because they at least made a stand rather than the wolfy alternative which is to sheep and hedge.

It also implies that wolves are incapable of driving mislynches which is also not true.

Like beginning your post with "Not based on wagonomics" and then using an argument that is a best a null read gives off the impression pizza if trying to convince the thread to follow a false narrative but pretending to look like he knows what he's talking about.

[GamerDude]

That post is also incredibly illed time and out of place because no more than 1 person made any serious advances towards Cuth

[Al Sipsclar]

I didn't tunnel anyone at D2, so that's something you're making up.
I had a bunch of people in null group, and thought GH looked the worst of them, for what little there was to go on, so I voted him.
That's about the furthest from tunneling you can come while voting someone.
So you claiming I did seems very stretched or is a display of you not paying attention to things while writing whatever makes it sound like you have actual thoughts.

Also wouldn't call my vote on D3 for tunneling, he was simply still alive and still where I thought it was best to put a vote.

Here's your entire D2 contribution. Only one post with substance and only a single vote. If voting the same person two days in a row without any hesitation is not tunneling, then at best it is very lazy. Wolves do it to skate by and reduce the amount of information they give to town.

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Was right on Montmorency being towny. Great job lynching him, FRIENDZ.

Had a giggle at the write up stories

Zack + ATPG both alive after 2 NKs. Hmmm

Town:
NotACop

Towny:
Dp101(tiny town points for #33 early questioning. Also like his questioning in #56, asking if I always behave like I did on D1) Also like later questions from him - seem to be in a solvy mindset on D1, so fairly towny impression. #137 is pure as fuck, and pretty sure him and Zack aren't scum partners.

El Barto(sounds fairly free in tone, although not very solvy - yet I'm fairly sure he is town)
Sooh(seems genuine in her #138+#139, while I also liked it a little that she said she'd want to keep me around just for the stories, as such statements isn't what you're trying to make as scum trying to look solving - so it is more often written by a town, imo) #160 of hers also looks towny

novice(find it a bit towny how he's also making game relevant comments in same posts as taking care of the voting) seems somewhat solvy and like his #242 thoughts(like it as in; seems towny)
Cuthilius(his defense in #259+#260 seem towny to me. I like the amount of statements he makes in #260, as I can see it is posted only 2 minutes after his #259 - so seems like something he made on the fly, which is usually at towny sign, as you don't have to consider what you write as much when you are town)
Scarlett Aria(not a strong feeling here, but from what I've seen she seems to play/sound like how I remember her as town in last games I've had with her) I like her questions for ATPG on page 6, don't think scum!Alette would interact with him often there.

Askthepizzaguy(Honestly don't know much about how to read ATPG, as I've only been in games where he was town - so far he seem solvy and fairly in his consideration)

Null:
BSmith
Al Sipsclar(tiny bit towny on page 1, but not enough to be moved out of null pile)
GeneralHankerchief(slightly dislike his reasoning for voting Monty, only stating his opinion on the other persons with votes, simply stating "That leaves Monty")
seireikhaan
Newyn
Zack(is joking for a bit too long on D1 for what I like to see from him - not damning though. Like his interactions with ATPG on page 6)
Riedquat


Scummy:
No one is scummy enough so far, that I feel it is worth placing them here.

I'll Vote: GeneralHankerchief as a start

Mostly a gut feel. He's mental, an absolute mad lad!

Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers right now.

Nothing is going on, I'm just a narcissist

Also, you know who else doesn't have any scum leans? Hitler Scum! They only see townies around them, so it's hard for a scum to find anything scummy in townies.