Visor's Small Mafia Game [Concluded]

**Al Sipsclar** · 12-03-2016, 08:00

Originally Posted by seireikhaan

Al Sips: Low relative activity. Post 330 strikes some scum radar for me - types words, but none of it really means much. Some admitted hesitance is fine, though. Saying he'd leave someone who came out town as someone to end game strikes me as a bit perfect information syndrome-y. Saying people he doesn't like doesn't add anything. Revenge voted for GH today adding a fairly vindictive "Planning to lynch another townie today, General?". Seems PIS-y, as well as possibly hoping to out someone on his trail if mafia. Strong scum lean.

Hmm... Is khaan trying to convince me to move my vote? Hmm. Probably not.

Someone told me once, in another game, that those who claimed to see PIS, themselves had PIS. You have to have one to see one.

**Montmorency** · 12-03-2016, 08:29

Someone told me once, in another game, that those who claimed to see PIS, themselves had PIS. You have to have one to see one.

You have to have one to see one have one to see one.

**Al Sipsclar** · 12-03-2016, 08:55

Originally Posted by Montmorency

You have to have one to see one have one to see one.

Yep, turtles all the way down.

**seireikhaan** · 12-03-2016, 09:05

Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar

Hmm... Is khaan trying to convince me to move my vote? Hmm. Probably not.

Someone told me once, in another game, that those who claimed to see PIS, themselves had PIS. You have to have one to see one.

Eh, not totally incorrect. Much like most tells and behaviors, it's easier to tell when you've done the blunder yourself. Definitely guilty of it in the past at points.

**Montmorency** · 12-03-2016, 09:19

Khaan, how does this building Choxorn vs. GH/Khaan thunderdome interact with my holding one or both of GH/Khaan and Choxorn culpable?

At first I felt it foreclosed on the possibility of a m/m alignment, but now they're large and evenly-matched enough that it's plausible again.

If you and Choxorn are scum, who is your partner? If only Choxorn is scum, who are his partners?

**Renata** · 12-03-2016, 11:29

"If you and Choxorn are scum, who is your partner," really Monty? Lol.

I'm feeling a lot better about the GH vote (and a lot worse about the choxorn one) after Khaan's post. I did not like that at all.

Are we freaking tied again? I think we are.

**Montmorency** · 12-03-2016, 11:43

really Monty? Lol.

Think about it. It's legit.

**Renata** · 12-03-2016, 11:47

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Think about it. It's legit.

It may well be, but it's too much for my poor head. :)

**Choxorn** · 12-03-2016, 12:17

Unvote
Vote: seireikhaan

For self-prez, and I also didn't like his long post a bit before this one. Apparently we're somehow scum together, though. Still not sure how that makes sense.

**Montmorency** · 12-03-2016, 12:20

It may well be, but it's too much for my poor head. :)

...

'Let me explain Newyn to you all in 500 words of airy blather.'

I was more struck by the content, i.e. calling Newyn an effective liar as town, and the tantalized scum plan explanation.

**Renata** · 12-03-2016, 11:46

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I haven't seen anything that makes me push any of my town reads away from being town.

On the other hand, I don't have a strong suspect at the moment. Renata's case on Newyn seems fine.

I'll add pressure to Al Sipsclar until I can come up with a reason not to, or I find something stronger.

Vote: Al Sipsclar

Newyn case is fine.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I'm being super slow but I'm only just absorbing this now.

I kind of get what you mean here, but I'd think it's more important to try to get your scum suspect lynched than to try to create teams, particularly that early.

Was there something more compelling that I'm missing? Because I wouldn't be surprised.

Newyn case ('oh, that was your Newyn case?') is not fine.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Newyn isn't particularly jumpy.

Newyn strikes me as a particularly measured, deep thinking, not reveal your cards until the right moment, kind of player. As either alignment.

As town, he is uncannily like me: Will lie and create gambits that help town. However, he will do it in 10,000 fewer words, which makes it more effective.

As scum, I can figure out his plan. I can even explain his plan to you. But his plan will still work.

That's Newyn in a nutshell. I would love to town clear him. I don't know how to do that, but it would be a very strong move. If he lynches scum repeatedly, then him not being dead at final 3 should be a clue. But he should eat a murder instead by then.

If that helps you read him, great, if you have a better read on him than I do currently, and my experience with him is what he's playing into, then I apologize in advance.

'Let me explain Newyn to you all in 500 words of airy blather.'

The semi-contradiction is interesting to me, but the main ping here is the long post on Newyn's playstyle. This kind of detachment, I guess, from ongoing proceedings is something I think I've seen before.