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smh is an acronym that has become popular just recently
smhZack
it means "smoke mad herb"
smhZack
it means "smoke mad herb"
vote me already you goddamn coward
don't make ultimatums you won't follow through on
don't make ultimatums you won't follow through on
I'm going to put myself forward for rep today, on the grounds that I will be around at eod to make sure Cass gets the final decision once again (and I promise to do this even if it means putting myself in the firing line).
Vote: Winston
This does not mean, however, that I won't be putting forth my own arguments. I'll be around on-and-off over the next 24 hours if anyone wishes to interact, but I'm mostly going to be reading and thinking, with a view to setting out some cases in the latter half of the day.
Vote: Winston
This does not mean, however, that I won't be putting forth my own arguments. I'll be around on-and-off over the next 24 hours if anyone wishes to interact, but I'm mostly going to be reading and thinking, with a view to setting out some cases in the latter half of the day.
vote: Zack
Stop kicking the puppy.
And do something.
vote:Dp101
Stop kicking the puppy.
And do something.
vote:Dp101
bite me renata
i had the most posts on d1 and i was completely ignored
so bite me
so bite me
:(
I didn't ignore you but I did change my mind on Jabbz.
I didn't ignore you but I did change my mind on Jabbz.
You are avoiding answering the real question here, which is why should we trust anything you say from this point on. Whether or not it makes it more likely you are mafia doesn't matter if I can't trust what you write to be true.
there are 3 people in this game who matter and i'm not one of them
you can call me a butthurt loser but i don't care
i'm not going to feel bad about anything
my thoughts are mostly unchanged from d1 so look there if you want to pretend to care what i have to say
you can call me a butthurt loser but i don't care
i'm not going to feel bad about anything
my thoughts are mostly unchanged from d1 so look there if you want to pretend to care what i have to say
Originally Posted by Zack:
there are 3 people in this game who matter and i'm not one of them
you can call me a butthurt loser but i don't care
i'm not going to feel bad about anything
my thoughts are mostly unchanged from d1 so look there if you want to pretend to care what i have to say
This doesn't seem like you.there are 3 people in this game who matter and i'm not one of them
you can call me a butthurt loser but i don't care
i'm not going to feel bad about anything
my thoughts are mostly unchanged from d1 so look there if you want to pretend to care what i have to say
Originally Posted by Renata:
This doesn't seem like you.
that means a lot to someone i haven't talked to in 5 years? lolThis doesn't seem like you.
Originally Posted by Jabbz:
You are avoiding answering the real question here, which is why should we trust anything you say from this point on. Whether or not it makes it more likely you are mafia doesn't matter if I can't trust what you write to be true.
By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up. You are avoiding answering the real question here, which is why should we trust anything you say from this point on. Whether or not it makes it more likely you are mafia doesn't matter if I can't trust what you write to be true.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
I mean, even if you're unhappy you're the only one reading Jabbz as scum, so what? Or the representative system, so what? You would't have gotten Jabbz lynched yesterday in a regular format anyway, and there's other scum in the sea. You really think town can win this with only three people playing? I know you don't, so what's going on?
Tell me your other reads, because I've forgotten and don't intend to do any actual work until tomorrow when I'm not entertaining a sick kid half the time.
Tell me your other reads, because I've forgotten and don't intend to do any actual work until tomorrow when I'm not entertaining a sick kid half the time.
Originally Posted by Zack:
that means a lot to someone i haven't talked to in 5 years? lol
Personality meld. Don't deny it.that means a lot to someone i haven't talked to in 5 years? lol
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
Is there a reason you're not voting Cuthilius?By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
Originally Posted by Renata:
Is there a reason you're not voting Cuthilius?
Is there a reason I should be? I'm down with the lynch. Until someone else advances a topic I'm down to peevishness and com-posting.Is there a reason you're not voting Cuthilius?
Originally Posted by Renata:
You really think town can win this with only three people playing?
worked pretty well in pirate ship 2You really think town can win this with only three people playing?
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
Anyone else able to corroborate this? Not that I don't trust you Mont, just don't know you.By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
@Zack The idea that only three people matter here is absurd. I'm pretty sure no town makes their voting decision in a vacuum, or based only on their own reads. The only way your contributions wouldn't matter would be if you are town trying to spread the suspicion evenly in order to confuse things. Since I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by Zack:
voting the next person to use punctuation, doesn't help catching scum
fine by mevoting the next person to use punctuation, doesn't help catching scum
it is kinda passe
Originally Posted by Renata:
vote: Zack
Stop kicking the puppy.
And do something.
vote:Dp101
i like youvote: Zack
Stop kicking the puppy.
And do something.
vote:Dp101
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Is there a reason I should be? I'm down with the lynch. Until someone else advances a topic I'm down to peevishness and com-posting.
Not voting Visor anymore, certain Visor/Cuth is one wolf, one villager, etc.Is there a reason I should be? I'm down with the lynch. Until someone else advances a topic I'm down to peevishness and com-posting.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
By the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
introduce me to someone who isn't in favor of vanillas drawing killsBy the by, Visor has come out elsewhere in favor of vanillas drawing kills. Plus, he like screwing around. Adds up.
It could of course be a straight WIFOM on his part but it's not a sure shot anymore.
Originally Posted by Jabbz:
Anyone else able to corroborate this? Not that I don't trust you Mont, just don't know you.
@Zack The idea that only three people matter here is absurd. I'm pretty sure no town makes their voting decision in a vacuum, or based only on their own reads. The only way your contributions wouldn't matter would be if you are town trying to spread the suspicion evenly in order to confuse things. Since I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated.
really shocked you think this makes me look badAnyone else able to corroborate this? Not that I don't trust you Mont, just don't know you.
@Zack The idea that only three people matter here is absurd. I'm pretty sure no town makes their voting decision in a vacuum, or based only on their own reads. The only way your contributions wouldn't matter would be if you are town trying to spread the suspicion evenly in order to confuse things. Since I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated.
SHOCKED
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
i like you
Oh god.i like you
Originally Posted by :
introduce me to someone who isn't in favor of vanillas drawing kills
*raises hand*introduce me to someone who isn't in favor of vanillas drawing kills
Not the same thing as 'vanillas being killed', mind you. Most people are generally against false role-claims.
But I didn't have this scruple before, I could abandon it again.
Originally Posted by Renata:
Not voting Visor anymore, certain Visor/Cuth is one wolf, one villager, etc.
Put me on record. Keep it on record. I will not deny or obscure it. However, I probably only officially lodge the vote if it looks like changing it is a real possibility, or for the ultimate daily requirement.Not voting Visor anymore, certain Visor/Cuth is one wolf, one villager, etc.
Originally Posted by Zack:
really shocked you think this makes me look bad
SHOCKED
Guilty conscience much mate?really shocked you think this makes me look bad
SHOCKED
I wasn't implying, insinuating, or making the argument that your actions made you look bad. Please not the "I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated."
I get that you have an issue with me bud, that's honestly fine. Until you can find a good argument as to why I should be lynched however, you could engage in the game and actively help, or I suppose you could act petulant and oppressed, then eat a lynch instead of letting us lynch scum. There are always multiple options.
Originally Posted by Jabbz:
Guilty conscience much mate?
I wasn't implying, insinuating, or making the argument that your actions made you look bad. Please not the "I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated."
I get that you have an issue with me bud, that's honestly fine. Until you can find a good argument as to why I should be lynched however, you could engage in the game and actively help, or I suppose you could act petulant and oppressed, then eat a lynch instead of letting us lynch scum. There are always multiple options.
I thought I was a wolf, but you're talking like you know I'm townie now.Guilty conscience much mate?
I wasn't implying, insinuating, or making the argument that your actions made you look bad. Please not the "I'm not reading this as you are saying you're scum, your help would be appreciated."
I get that you have an issue with me bud, that's honestly fine. Until you can find a good argument as to why I should be lynched however, you could engage in the game and actively help, or I suppose you could act petulant and oppressed, then eat a lynch instead of letting us lynch scum. There are always multiple options.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
From yesterday's events we have hard-cleared Renata, Cass, DP101, and (nearly-so) atheotes. They are inarguably the towniest players now.
Let's talk about the Choxorn affair in its sequence:
Chox substantively closes the day by showing up EOD to vote Al Sipsclar, who a bit earlier appeared to make ritual-vote on BSmith and said little else (1175).
All of this looks clearing for DP, Cass, and Renata, and overwhelming in favor of Atheotes on top of previous behavior. But rather than assessing others in relation to them, right now the focus is on how Visor relates to it.
Visor's tone changes notably in his final activity of the day, which comes right after Renata opens the case on Choxorn. His claimed double-vote never manifests. Strikingly, he makes numerous pleas toward prospective Reps to vote Cuth with him. This is striking because even one (of the two other) reps voting with Visor would conceal any double vote effect should it exist, since 2-1 is indistinguishable on our part from 3-1: the result is the same. His calls for consolidation were just meant to erect a front that would give him a pass from putting up.
I'd also like to broach what I was hinting at earlier respecting the claim. Look here at Visor's comment just prior to Chox events that
This is in other words a statement that he would not use his power on D2, toward the end of avoiding a burnout. I think his statement reflects the broader mechanical truth that Pizza would never grant a player, town or Mafia, an unlimited double vote. It could conceivably be more than a one-shot, but at best it would have an alternate-day effect. Visor was laying ground to avert consequences from future inconsistencies, without admitting details of the power. Since Visor went inactive before EOD, and DP had not voted Choxorn yet, and District 1 was still up in the air between Renata, Cuth, and DP, there is no argument that Visor is cleared by virtue of not taking action to save Choxorn, who anyway was killed by tiebreaker ability.
One of Cuth or Visor must be scum, opposite alignment. Who Cuth is in turn sheds light on Sooh, since Cuth was one of the few to carry a renewed push against Sooh late in the day. There is also a technical scenario in which Visor and Cuth were furiously bussing, and Visor never planned to apply special powers to lynch him. However, most players do not like the strategy of intense bussing from D1, and regardless it does not lessen the need to lynch Visor.
EDIT: Sooh is town, as we now know. Pending...
This dude is always a villagerFrom yesterday's events we have hard-cleared Renata, Cass, DP101, and (nearly-so) atheotes. They are inarguably the towniest players now.
Let's talk about the Choxorn affair in its sequence:
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Chox substantively closes the day by showing up EOD to vote Al Sipsclar, who a bit earlier appeared to make ritual-vote on BSmith and said little else (1175).
All of this looks clearing for DP, Cass, and Renata, and overwhelming in favor of Atheotes on top of previous behavior. But rather than assessing others in relation to them, right now the focus is on how Visor relates to it.
Visor's tone changes notably in his final activity of the day, which comes right after Renata opens the case on Choxorn. His claimed double-vote never manifests. Strikingly, he makes numerous pleas toward prospective Reps to vote Cuth with him. This is striking because even one (of the two other) reps voting with Visor would conceal any double vote effect should it exist, since 2-1 is indistinguishable on our part from 3-1: the result is the same. His calls for consolidation were just meant to erect a front that would give him a pass from putting up.
I'd also like to broach what I was hinting at earlier respecting the claim. Look here at Visor's comment just prior to Chox events that
This is in other words a statement that he would not use his power on D2, toward the end of avoiding a burnout. I think his statement reflects the broader mechanical truth that Pizza would never grant a player, town or Mafia, an unlimited double vote. It could conceivably be more than a one-shot, but at best it would have an alternate-day effect. Visor was laying ground to avert consequences from future inconsistencies, without admitting details of the power. Since Visor went inactive before EOD, and DP had not voted Choxorn yet, and District 1 was still up in the air between Renata, Cuth, and DP, there is no argument that Visor is cleared by virtue of not taking action to save Choxorn, who anyway was killed by tiebreaker ability.
One of Cuth or Visor must be scum, opposite alignment. Who Cuth is in turn sheds light on Sooh, since Cuth was one of the few to carry a renewed push against Sooh late in the day. There is also a technical scenario in which Visor and Cuth were furiously bussing, and Visor never planned to apply special powers to lynch him. However, most players do not like the strategy of intense bussing from D1, and regardless it does not lessen the need to lynch Visor.
EDIT: Sooh is town, as we now know. Pending...
Originally Posted by Visor:
'not use my power'
I don't have a power, I lied to get elected.
You'd all find some excuse not to vote me in so I forced yo her hand to do so.
Well done cass.
Monty/cuth look awful. Cuth progression on schema is literally bizarre, will show in a few hours.
I disagree 100% tho'not use my power'
I don't have a power, I lied to get elected.
You'd all find some excuse not to vote me in so I forced yo her hand to do so.
Well done cass.
Monty/cuth look awful. Cuth progression on schema is literally bizarre, will show in a few hours.
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