Representative Democracy [Concluded]

[Cass_]

Ah, screw multiquote on this site. That's out of order.. I think there were two comments from Monty, but you get the idea. He picked on my thinking choxorn's wording looked fake, and ignored the other half of my argument.

Well yeah, that's me. I stand by it. Your case looked better with Choxorn's original early-day post in context, but I didn't recall it at the time and to speak of it now from retrospect isn't useful.

I was wrong. :/

becauuuseee flips are flips and heck if i know what tomorrow's going to be like

from my pov there, she was potentially trying to bait me into a mini-tunnel to distract me

but basically because reevaluations happen

if she didn't get lynched, she could either die or survive, right

what if two townies died that wouldn't make sense with town sooh? scum

what if a scum and townie die that make total sense with scum

but what if the people die point away from sooh

it's d1, basically

idk

These thoughts are either really free-flowing or really weak.

Aorn I don't think a wolf goes into that much detail to sound so flip-floppy.

[Zack]

Is Cuth a wolf to you?

if you had read the thread at all you wouldn't be asking this

[Montmorency]

Mindmeld with Renata here.

FTR the part that got skipped over pretty much locked Renata Town for me in that it shows her (accurately) comparing Chox's previous Town play with his play to that point in the game.

The fact that Mont skips over that to focus on wording (to then subsequently take focus off of Chox) is what bothers me most.

Much obliged. But I covered Choxorn meta, still don't see it.

[Cass_]

I'm out for now.

I'll try to read along on mobile but working all day and then 2hr drive home to fam, and then fam stuff comes first until everyone's in bed.

I'll be online for as long as I can stay awake after that and back again a few hours from deadline.


Aorn, current bottom tiers



BSmith/CSargo/Riedquat


Winston/Monty/GH/El Barto


My preference* would be to lynch from here, but I'll pretty much always thoroughly re-evaluate everyone who ends up nominated for lynch when it happens.

*Disclaimer that this could change as I catch up

Night all

Or rather, good morning <.<

*Hides from Dice*

[Cass_]

Much obliged. But I covered Choxorn meta, still don't see it.

Don't see the difference?

Which games did you look at?

(If you're talking about covering something different, I'm sorry, I've missed it)

[Zack]

why am i not listed by winston

i thought you viewed us the same

i don't really get what your problem with him is though

or me for that matter

[Cass_]

if you had read the thread at all you wouldn't be asking this

True, but so? Why not just answer?

[Zack]

True, but so? Why not just answer?

why not ask pointless questions

it would be like me asking you if you thought choxorn was wolfy yesterday

the answer is obvious and nothing is gained by asking it

[Montmorency]

Don't see the difference?

Which games did you look at?

(If you're talking about covering something different, I'm sorry, I've missed it)

Last one: Visor Small Mafia.

[Cass_]

why am i not listed by winston

i thought you viewed us the same

i don't really get what your problem with him is though

or me for that matter

Aorn, you're right above him.

I skimmed back through Star Fox and your attitude here is kind of the same. You were Town there which makes it more likely that I'm being oversensitive about that part of your play here.

Winston, as with everyone at the moment besides Monty who I've freshly ISO'd, is there because of little pings and possibilities I can't articulate clearly enough right now.

/shrug

Why you pressuring me so much?

[Zack]

Aorn, you're right above him.

I skimmed back through Star Fox and your attitude here is kind of the same. You were Town there which makes it more likely that I'm being oversensitive about that part of your play here.

Winston, as with everyone at the moment besides Monty who I've freshly ISO'd, is there because of little pings and possibilities I can't articulate clearly enough right now.

/shrug

Why you pressuring me so much?

no one else is really here

i'm present and interacting

[Montmorency]

What is aorn.

[Zack]

as of right now

[Cass_]

Last one: Visor Small Mafia.

You read that and compared it to here?

Then I absolutely DO NOT see how you didn't see a difference in his play.

ISO for reference.

Both ISOs are really short, but that game was basically the DIRECT opposite to here.

Basic summary is that there he

- Questions, questions, questions players from the beginning / Focused on hunting scum.
- Gives SCUM leans, not Town, with specific/game-focused reasons

Here there were no questions until right before he was about to be lynched and it was to slap down a vote 4 mins before EoD on an Al Sips post that was made an hourish earlier.

His most game related post here gave nothing but 'light Town reads' (no reasons) ... plus and a waffle on generic claimed PRs followed by a 'and finally here's a funny gif' which in itself really, really pinged.

TLDR he pretty much screamed scum in direct comparison to that game.

What did you take away from it?

[atheotes]

wow...24 pages to catch up.
Anything interesting?

[Zack]

wow...24 pages to catch up.
Anything interesting?

focus on cuth, gh, bsmith, barto

[Dp101]

wow...24 pages to catch up.
Anything interesting?

Spam

People complaining about spam

[Montmorency]

Basic summary is that there he

- Questions, questions, questions players from the beginning / Focused on hunting scum.
- Gives SCUM leans, not Town, with specific/game-focused reasons

Without hindsight, not much. You can only afford to push this because of the flip.

[Cass_]

no one else is really here

i'm present and interacting

Which is why you're higher towards Town?

I don't see the point in pressing me right now. Not sure how much of that is my own tiredness but it still pings .

I also don't see the point of arguing back against you when you're not currently in my WTL until I've caught up on what you've said beyond skimming and really given it hard thought. I'm gonna nap before work, I'll try and catch up on your ISO during the day. If you make more sense to me than my gut and the pings I've had of tinfoil disappear under direct line of sight I'll move you up.

Later all <3

[Cass_]

Without hindsight, not much. You can only afford to push this because of the flip.

Push it???

IT'S RIGHT THERE. It's the WHOLE REASON there's the flip there is.

And you're saying you read both games but didn't see it.

It was super obvious to me.



Other people should take a look and weigh in.

/shrug

[Zack]

Which is why you're higher towards Town?

I don't see the point in pressing me right now. Not sure how much of that is my own tiredness but it still pings .

I also don't see the point of arguing back against you when you're not currently in my WTL until I've caught up on what you've said beyond skimming and really given it hard thought. I'm gonna nap before work, I'll try and catch up on your ISO during the day. If you make more sense to me than my gut and the pings I've had of tinfoil disappear under direct line of sight I'll move you up.

Later all <3

well sorry i guess i'll just ignore you and not talk to you all game? lol

[Montmorency]

Push it???

IT'S RIGHT THERE. It's the WHOLE REASON there's the flip there is.

And you're saying you read both games but didn't see it.

It was super obvious to me.



Other people should take a look and weigh in.

/shrug

OK, jeez Grand Champion, you could see it. I guess that's why you're in a position of leadership, no?

[Cass_]

But I can acknowledge this may be a difference in playstyles.

For now it strikes me as so strange it leans to wolfy.

Hopefully your own ISOs will give me clues

[Cuthillius]

YOU lynched me

case in point

[atheotes]

The consideration of the bold seems really villagery here and it's a distinction I missed/didn't think you made obvious skimming through your first post at the start of day.

@atheotes, was your vote on Choxorn when Renata asked you to join in because of her request or because you found him wolfy?

What made you change the vote back to El Barto?

I was a little suspicious of Renata. But once i saw her response to Choxorn's post, it was a mindmeld which made me change my read on her. So yes, i thought Choxorn was wolfy.
barto was still my first choice though. And i did not want you to go for a 4th candidate (outside of Chox, Cuth & Barto)

[atheotes]

focus on cuth, gh, bsmith, barto

BSmith posted already? the other 3 were in my scum list D1.

Spam

People complaining about spam

[Winston Hughes]

----- Please provide links to ISO's for your two most recent Town and your two most recent Scum games -----

Can't give you ISOs, but here are the games:

Town
Town
Scum (subbed in D2)
Scum

[Winston Hughes]

Fair warning: I only posted about ten times in each of those scum games.

(Just be grateful I decided that the game where I posted only in quotes from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas didn't really count.)

[Zack]

red dwarf would be a better example

[Zack]

nope

glgl

how hard is it to take a picture of your toilet