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They attack the border guards because they are now part of their daily life and within reach; if they had been settled in Saudi Arabia, they'd be working at the local bakery instead. The kind of people that attack border guards might not be the type of people we'd want to let in, anyway.
I'm sure there are lots of bakeries longing for workers in Saudi Arabia, on that I concede the point to you. I'm not sure why you say the latter as I said the same myself, perhaps not in this thread...

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There are some significant differences between chocolate and citizenship.
No, both are pretty sweet in this case.

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At any rate, not a result of colonial plunder in the past. If this is true, then they should ask for those things to be fixed, not migrate here.
I'm sure they haven't thought of asking politely so far, what an oversight on their part.
Maybe beating border guards is the only way they know how to express their dissatisfaction given that we never gave them highschool discussion club technology?

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One of the biggest reasons they have come here while people from the slums do not, is because Syrians live closer and are wealthier; they actually have the means to get here unlike people from the worst slums. There are many people on this planet in much greater need of help than Syrians in refugee camps.
As you know, I agree about the latter, the reasons for both are largely the same though IMO.
As for the ability to come here, how do sub-saharan Africans do it? Are they as wealthy as Syrians?

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Except from the obvious of checking against known or suspected criminals, we don't because we can't. Many terrorists are second-generation and not even born yet as their future parents cross the borders.
And because we know for certain that some of them will inevitably breed some terrorists, we should send all of them elsewhere?

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I have suggested that they should be helped right from the start; just without the parts where people get mowed down by lorries and cities takes steps towards anarchy. They should not feel entitled to a life in Europe.
The thing is that some of them are entitled to a life in Europe. The ones who are not should be sent back more effectively, on that I do not disagree.

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You didn't show anything, you played with words. Law and order doesn't mean zero criminality any more than not being imprisoned means you can do anything you would feel like.
"a situation characterized by respect for and obedience to the rules of a society."

Would you call tax evasion respect for and obedience to the rules of a society? I'd rather give you that bar brawls are part of our culture...