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    I am to ban any ideology based which is against human rights, promotes inequality, violent expansion and didn't change their original texts. If the ideology changed and became in line with the laws, no.
    So, communist one in a modern version as it is in the main democratic countries is not be banned.
    I do not want to banm ideology on past actions. Same applies for others ideologies.
    However, contrary to ideologies being written by humans so can be amended, changed and improved, ideologies based on revealed and sacred texts spoken by a deity cannot be amended, changed or modified, or under the admittance that the deity was wrong at the first audience.
    In you want to ban communism, you have to came with the actual platform and shows where this platform breach the human right laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    I am to ban any ideology based which is against human rights, promotes inequality, violent expansion and didn't change their original texts. If the ideology changed and became in line with the laws, no.
    So, communist one in a modern version as it is in the main democratic countries is not be banned.
    I do not want to banm ideology on past actions. Same applies for others ideologies.
    However, contrary to ideologies being written by humans so can be amended, changed and improved, ideologies based on revealed and sacred texts spoken by a deity cannot be amended, changed or modified, or under the admittance that the deity was wrong at the first audience.
    In you want to ban communism, you have to came with the actual platform and shows where this platform breach the human right laws.
    You'll have banned Capitalism, then.
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    Good question but irrelevant. Where is the ideological book describing Capitalism? The consequences of bad capitalism (or bad communism) are not in the platform but in the actions of states or individuals. Is Condor operation inscribe in capitalism? Or was it H Kissinger decision?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Good question but irrelevant. Where is the ideological book describing Capitalism? The consequences of bad capitalism (or bad communism) are not in the platform but in the actions of states or individuals. Is Condor operation inscribe in capitalism? Or was it H Kissinger decision?
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    Adam Smith actually propounded upon a doctrine of beneficial selfishness. His writing and those who follow him may well be responsible for not only the recent financial crisis but also the general unravelling of social fabric in Europe.

    Smith did not, however, advocate slum landlords or dismantling companies and selling them off for parts. Marx did not advocate Gulags and Jesus preached absolute pacifism.

    Either God is real and religion is special of He isn't and it isn't.

    You can't say God is a made up idea and then say religion is still different to any other philosophy or ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    I am to ban any ideology based which is against human rights, promotes inequality, violent expansion and didn't change their original texts.
    If communists promoted "expropriation of expropriators", e.i. taking away private property to make everyone equal, is it the way to promote equality?

    Is not the tenet of the export of revolution a kind of expansion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    So, communist one in a modern version as it is in the main democratic countries is not be banned. I do not want to banm ideology on past actions. Same applies for others ideologies.
    So if nazis come up with some modern version of their ideology (and perhaps they already have), will you stand for their right to be represented on the political arena?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    However, contrary to ideologies being written by humans so can be amended, changed and improved, ideologies based on revealed and sacred texts spoken by a deity cannot be amended, changed or modified, or under the admittance that the deity was wrong at the first audience.
    Religions have been always subject to modification which resulted in appearance of new religions, for instance judaism and christianity, or new confessions of the same religions (shia and sunni islam).

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    In you want to ban communism, you have to came with the actual platform and shows where this platform breach the human right laws.
    So whatever communists at power did, you can't ban the ideology they steered by?

    But whatever reasons for banning religion(s) you may forward, what about the people who will persist in worshipping them? What will you do with them? Proclaim them outlaws? Persecute them?
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