Trump Thread

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Thank you Seamus for getting the thread somewhat back on the rails :)
Particularly since, "Sicily Moment" refers to Athens fatal error of sending the fleet to loot Sicily during the winter "downtime", and before the resumption of Spartan hostilities in campaign season.
The price of pride and greed was to lose Athens; it would rise again...but..

The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.

[Montmorency]

The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.

Well, it did involve many leading figures over several decades. There's no one "administration" to point to.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.

That seems an accurate assessment.

[HopAlongBunny]

I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.

I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"

[Pannonian]

I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.

I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"

I've thought of it as Athens' Barbarossa: needlessly restarting and expanding the war when they had achieved an advantageous peace from the previous bout of campaigning.