Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

As a sidenote, I'm going to say there's a 100% chance at least one wolf took the lynchproof spell. And i expect gh to cry when it inevitably happens.

You lie. No such thing.

Hi Winston. More like Winsrarely, am I right?

Better to say: Winston? More like Winsnot. ohhhh

You're looking at the surface layer, trying to find reasons to call me scummy.

I was inclined to favor your position, but this post sounds a lot like Pizza-style bamboozling. I'll chalk it up to your philosophical experimentation.

Right now I'm working through whether a wolf Winston would have openly called me tense or would have been running to scum chat yelling about me being an obvious power role instead, sort of thing.

We're all power roles. Some of me more so than others.

I see my attempts not to get universally town read on day one for a change are going swimmingly. The usual stray votes notwithstanding.

Stray votes? So do you expect not to be townread, or the opposite? I certainly stand by my non-townread of you, for one.

This is bang on but for what it's worth Arakhor is a hedge-y kind of guy regardless of alignment.

Are you a hedgy-on-Arakhor kind of guy regardless of alignment?

For Dp -- honest question here, what's the difference between me and Zack?

That's always the question, isn't it?

Visor-Renata still sounds good. DP probably wouldn't take the risk of putting her into the lead as partner.

I don't see what about this warrants all the votes. I assumed he was just referring to reading the rules and shit. Who cares.

Someone enterprising should cross-check this sentiment against the last game and its low-poster narratives.


Everyone lists their powers for public review except vig - discuss.

[Lewwyn]

Everyone lists their powers for public review except vig - discuss.

So the person who doesn't list their powers is a vig?

[Renata]

Stray votes? So do you expect not to be townread, or the opposite? I certainly stand by my non-townread of you, for one.

I came into this game with the deliberate decision before I ever saw my role PM to stomp all over my town personality in one specific way I noticed I had problems with in my scum game on MU last week. And then I see myself getting rousing town reads from two of the more influential players in the game anyway, and it's not likely both of them are scum trying to pocket me. So go figure.

As for stray votes day one, I get them every single game. I've literally never not. Yet everyone seems to believe I obvtown myself within ten seconds whenever I am town, and hold it against me when I don't. See Dp this game, if he's not scum looking for a pockety way to jump on the biggest bandwagon. I need that to stop.

Are you a hedgy-on-Arakhor kind of guy regardless of alignment?

Good question; what is your actual read of Snerk?

Everyone lists their powers for public review except vig - discuss.

This is rolefishing and you should feel bad.

[Visor]

I came into this game with the deliberate decision before I ever saw my role PM to stomp all over my town personality in one specific way I noticed I had problems with in my scum game on MU last week. And then I see myself getting rousing town reads from two of the more influential players in the game anyway, and it's not likely both of them are scum trying to pocket me. So go figure.

As for stray votes day one, I get them every single game. I've literally never not. Yet everyone seems to believe I obvtown myself within ten seconds whenever I am town, and hold it against me when I don't. See Dp this game, if he's not scum looking for a pockety way to jump on the biggest bandwagon. I need that to stop.




Good question; what is your actual read of Snerk?





This is rolefishing and you should feel bad.

What were the problems you noticed in the scum game?

[Renata]

Difficulty in posting as fluently and freely as I do when I am town. I shortened my posts at the beginning of this game and stopped saying as much of what was on my mind as I usually do.

[Visor]

Difficulty in posting as fluently and freely as I do when I am town. I shortened my posts at the beginning of this game and stopped saying as much of what was on my mind as I usually do.

Did you find it was a deliberate shortening, cutting of your thoughts? Or was it more that it was harder to have those longer, more detailed thoughts?

[Renata]

I should never post when I'm short on sleep. This isn't going to help me in this game and it's not going to help me in future ones either.

[Renata]

I'm not talking about it anymore.

[Renata]

Visor, if you're still here give me a read on Monty. He apparently thinks we have w/w equity.

[Visor]

Visor, if you're still here give me a read on Monty. He apparently thinks we have w/w equity.

I don't have one.

[Lewwyn]

Visor, if you're still here give me a read on Monty. He apparently thinks we have w/w equity.

Slightly scummy on post basis, but slightly towny on meta basis.

[Montmorency]

I came into this game with the deliberate decision before I ever saw my role PM to stomp all over my town personality in one specific way I noticed I had problems with in my scum game on MU last week. And then I see myself getting rousing town reads from two of the more influential players in the game anyway, and it's not likely both of them are scum trying to pocket me. So go figure.

As for stray votes day one, I get them every single game. I've literally never not. Yet everyone seems to believe I obvtown myself within ten seconds whenever I am town, and hold it against me when I don't. See Dp this game, if he's not scum looking for a pockety way to jump on the biggest bandwagon. I need that to stop.

What is this one neat trick that doctor's don't want me to know?

Good question; what is your actual read of Snerk?

Good guy. Top guy.

This is rolefishing and you should feel bad.

Better earlier than never.

So the person who doesn't list their powers is a vig?

No, people list their roles except for, if they have it, vig. Then everyone can be a vig.

Difficulty in posting as fluently and freely as I do when I am town. I shortened my posts at the beginning of this game and stopped saying as much of what was on my mind as I usually do.

So what, you're trying to close the difference between scum and town styles? That's why you're so weird this time?

Unvote: Renata

Slightly scummy on post basis, but slightly towny on meta basis.

You remember my meta? It's been years.

I know for a fact that lynchproof was an available spell (Tier 4 6 mana cost). Either he's lying (monty is a good liar)

AHA! So my rolefishing is bearing fruit. In my spell list, there was only one Tier 4 spell: Incinerate. I'm comfortable concluding that the selections offered to different players were randomized a bit. Otherwise there are certain clearly-superior powers that we would see 5 or 10 people taking. I won't confirm or deny taking Incinerate (though there were numerous other good spells on the table).

...Good liar?

Yep, answering questions is something i simply can't do as a wolf. I've been caught.

But isn't that how you rolled in Democracy?

If you don't know that I am known for sesquippedalian loquaciousness by now, regardless of my status, then we really have not played together in FAR too long. As I've already said before, my rambling is in part due to my indecisiveness.

DP101 already fills that slot.

Afterthought - if scum-Arakhor's vote on Al is the fourth vote on him and he's going to get purified either way, wouldn't it be more obvious to bus him than not?

Actually, it would be null on its face.

I might switch. Feels like GH hasn't done much, and would be a decent option. Dislike your current case, mostly because I can't see anything alignment indicative in anything you quoted. Do you know if Visor is more serious or more jokey as mafia? It might help me figure out if the thanking posts without posting thing he did earlier was towny or not.

He thanked plenty of posts in Democracy. Of course, he was more aggressive in Democracy.

Well, apart from the fact that trying to prompt a full role-reveal on Day One (you know, before anything has happened) is just disrespectful to the designer's work, it was the inept way he went about it. Vigilantes shouldn't reveal, thereby suggesting that those who don't reveal have vig powers, but doctors, role-blockers and other town power roles should reveal, because of course the scum will be nice enough not to take advantage of that.

In summary: it's un-fun, inept and counter-productive either way, but it's not necessarily scummy, no.

I disagree.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Any overall conclusions on the state of things after that Barto-esque post, Monty?

[Winston Hughes]

Any overall conclusions on the state of things after that Barto-esque post, Monty?

Barto-esque, for sure.

But is it Bartesque?

[Arakhor]

If only I knew what Barto-esque implied.

DP101 already fills that slot.

This is my first game here. I wasn't aware that being rambly and seemingly scummy was copyrightable.

In summary: it's un-fun, inept and counter-productive either way, but it's not necessarily scummy, no.

I disagree.

Which bit are you disagreeing with? Un-fun, inept, counter-productive or not necessarily scummy?

Vote: Arakhor because it's too late to think and I want to make a point about please prepend "Vote:" to your votes you savages.

Actually, Unvote; Vote: DP101 because it's time I tasted his blood.

So... late-day "random" vote, followed by a vote (in the same post!) to throw DP101 into a tie once again?

This is then followed by a vote for Renata, which isn't valid because it's not in red and thus makes your 'complaint' about proper voting most ironic.

[Montmorency]

Any overall conclusions on the state of things after that Barto-esque post, Monty?

Let's talk in the night.

For now, perhaps people could respond to more elements of these big posts I've left, here and on Page 9.

[Arakhor]

For now, perhaps people could respond to more elements of these big posts I've left, here and on Page 9.

I'd like to point out that page-lengths are variable, but a post number is not.