Trump Thread

[Greyblades]

And if she kills the identity politics obsession in universities; bonus.

[a completely inoffensive name]

If she successfully expands voucher programs, I'm satisfied. The current system pretty much guarantees that the worst neighborhoods get the worst schools, and the poor children living there have no way out of them. Let them have a choice.

Voucher system is no different. Everyone needs education, what is the incentive for private schools to outperform public schools?

Another case of where the free market fetishists cant overcome their arousal to think about whether the proper incentives are even there.

And if she kills the identity politics obsession in universities; bonus.

You don't even know what this positions does do you?

[Sarmatian]

You don't even know what this positions does do you?

You're gonna waste a lot of time this way. Just assume he doesn't know anything and save time by not asking.

[CrossLOPER]

You're gonna waste a lot of time this way. Just assume he doesn't know anything and save time by not asking.

Maybe he's trying to expand his world view.

[Greyblades]

You don't even know what this positions does do you?

Among other things she will handle matters related to discrimination in schools and colleges on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, and other characteristics.

If Devos can end the inordinate amount of horseshit your country's educational services have pulled over the last decade to pander to every random nutjob's warped definition of discrimination you might actually get a university system that isnt the subject of cautionary tales.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Among other things she will handle matters related to discrimination in schools and colleges on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, and other characteristics.

If Devos can end the inordinate amount of horseshit your country's educational services have pulled over the last decade to pander to every random nutjob's warped definition of discrimination you might actually get a university system that isnt the subject of cautionary tales.

The only leverage tool she has on the college level is government funding. Using that would pose a threat to the state university systems -- not likely to win points with the Senators of said states who are often alumni of those very institutions. The SoE, via regulation, has far more impact on the K-12 portion of the education system -- though the Trump admin is so far taking a fairly staunch reduce regulation stance, so she'd have to reduce regulations to write others she favored.

[Greyblades]

There is a multiquote function you know.

The only leverage tool she has on the college level is government funding. Using that would pose a threat to the state university systems -- not likely to win points with the Senators of said states who are often alumni of those very institutions.

Primarily Democrat senators who arent in trump's interest to woo, what with all but a few being unwilling or incapable or of cooperating with the current administration at this point.

[Xiahou]

Voucher system is no different. Everyone needs education, what is the incentive for private schools to outperform public schools?

Private schools have the ability to fail and go out of business if they underperform. Students can attend other schools and take their funding with them. I thought that was obvious.

[Idaho]

Private schools have the ability to fail and go out of business if they underperform. Students can attend other schools and take their funding with them. I thought that was obvious.

In the UK they get tax breaks on everything, don't have to hire qualified teachers and can cherry pick the easiest exam boards. All to give rich kids that important leg up in life that they really don't need.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Private schools have the ability to fail and go out of business if they underperform. Students can attend other schools and take their funding with them. I thought that was obvious.

It's not because that not how the market will be set up. The vouchers will only be given to certain groups who will have no incentive to improve beyond the public school standards. Education, like healthcare, does not decrease in demand when it becomes more expensive and declines in quality because it is a necessity for everyone.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Voucher system is no different. Everyone needs education, what is the incentive for private schools to outperform public schools?

Another case of where the free market fetishists cant overcome their arousal to think about whether the proper incentives are even there.

The TRUE 'free market fetishist' would assert that mandated education itself should be abolished, and that it should be each parent's decision to educate their children or not and it should be their own financial decision as to how to fund that education if they do so.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

And if she kills the identity politics obsession in universities; bonus.

That brand of identity politics is a component of the American Political left co-culture. Altering it is a cultural change process and well past the ability of any government appointee to do more than nudge a bit.

[Xiahou]

That brand of identity politics is a component of the American Political left co-culture. Altering it is a cultural change process and well past the ability of any government appointee to do more than nudge a bit.

She could at least undo some of the Title IX abuse that was pushed out during the Obama administration.

[a completely inoffensive name]

The TRUE 'free market fetishist' would assert that mandated education itself should be abolished, and that it should be each parent's decision to educate their children or not and it should be their own financial decision as to how to fund that education if they do so.

We already had this conversation Seamus...in the early 1900s.

There is a multiquote function you know.



Primarily Democrat senators who arent in trump's interest to woo, what with all but a few being unwilling or incapable or of cooperating with the current administration at this point.

And Republican's didn't obstruct the basic functions of government during Obama's entire term?

She could at least undo some of the Title IX abuse that was pushed out during the Obama administration.

I agree. Women's sports are boring. Why are we funding this garbage.

[Montmorency]

Defund football.

[Strike For The South]

Defund football.

You're a nerd.

Also Spelling was an awful Edu. Secretary. The woman was one of the principal people behind the biggest piece of unfunded government overreach since Nam. Why do we want to return to bad people? What kind of relativism is that? The usual 10th amendment peanut gallery is all "what could go wrong with the federal government handing out mass vouchers?".

Devos made her money from freaking Amway. That's a pyramid scheme. I can think of no better person to hand out federal monies tied to education.

i understand their are a litany of problems with the education system that money can't fix. Everyone has seen the studies were there is a point where money stops helping. However, that does not mean this woman gets to remake the system is her own image because she is king of cash mountain.

[Xiahou]

Trump's also a twit, but has managed to do a few good things as president. So, who knows?

[Greyblades]

And Republican's didn't obstruct the basic functions of government during Obama's entire term?

They did, then reid did took the nuclear option and left the way open for trump to do use it as precident to do worse should the Dems try it.

[a completely inoffensive name]

They did, then reid did took the nuclear option and left the way open for trump to do use it as precident to do worse should the Dems try it.

Don't change the topic. You made a comment about Democrats "unwilling or incapable or of cooperating" with Trump. Do you have an issue with this?

[Greyblades]

"Dont change the topic" Says the man who's response at the statement "it's not in turmp's interest to woo democrats" is to go "What about the republicans and obama".

[Seamus Fermanagh]

We already had this conversation Seamus...in the early 1900s....

I knew I had been feeling a little old and creaky lately. What was it you said that made me stop arguing and let T.R. get on with it? I have gaps in my memory these days.

[HopAlongBunny]

Another in the "Had Obama done something like this..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN15N1YN

When (or by whom) can the prestige of public office and the reach of its platforms be used to further the interests of the individual or related parties?