French Presidential Election

[Brenus]

"Since the term was not coined at that times, does it mean there was no Armenian or Herero genocide?" I do not dispute the term of genocide, I think the term Crime against Humanity was inadequate...
Unfortunately, genocide was a system of conquest. Genghis Khan was good at it.
I discussed at long length about the culture of genocide with friends. South and Central America, Africa (see the Belgian Congo), etc... I was convinced by them that this culture lead to Hitler's final solution. A bit long to develop but that is the idea...
And I agree. It shouldn't be in the actual political debate. The war is over... No need to start it again...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

"Since the term was not coined at that times, does it mean there was no Armenian or Herero genocide?" I do not dispute the term of genocide, I think the term Crime against Humanity was inadequate...
Unfortunately, genocide was a system of conquest. Genghis Khan was good at it....

Unfettered warfare consists of:

1. Defeat the opponent in the field.
2. Defeat the last strongholds/holdouts.
3. Kill or enslave the military-aged males.
4. Kill the oldsters.
5. Rape the conquered women of child-bearing age and make them nurture the generation that will dominate the territory for you.

Warfare which does not go to this level is a Western conceit.

[Elmetiacos]

So now Fillon is not stepping down after being formally placed under investigation, despite having said that he would step down if he were placed under formal investigation. Instead he's decided on a Trump-like "It's all a conspiracy!" line. The BBC news here in England are saying that Le Pen is the main beneficiary of this scandal, but I totally disagree: the danger with a second round where Fillon was opposing Le Pen would be that he's so far to the Right that voters on the Left wouldn't think it worth turning out to vote at all and the usual anti-fascist consensus would crumble... it would be like telling people over here the only way to keep out Paul Nuttall would be to vote for John Redwood. Macron will restore the consensus and win by about 60/40 unless of course, weird shit happens.

[Brenus]

Macron has not a chance to built a consensus. He is the guy who add few millions poor in France by his XIX century policy. He is a media construction and might win but building a consensus, no.
Le Pen doesn't dare to move or speak, as each time she said something either stupid either the complete contrary of what she said 2 days before.
Situation is volatile. We shall see...
I will not vote for Macron. I will not vote for any member of the former government... I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else.
The Media and political Parties boosted Le Pen, they will deal with the result.

[Tristuskhan]

I will not vote for Macron. I will not vote for any member of the former government... I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else.

Bad souvenirs 2002 vintage maybe?

[Brenus]

Bad souvenirs 2002 vintage maybe?

Indeed.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Macron has not a chance to built a consensus. He is the guy who add few millions poor in France by his XIX century policy. He is a media construction and might win but building a consensus, no.
Le Pen doesn't dare to move or speak, as each time she said something either stupid either the complete contrary of what she said 2 days before.
Situation is volatile. We shall see...
I will not vote for Macron. I will not vote for any member of the former government... I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else.
The Media and political Parties boosted Le Pen, they will deal with the result.

This is how Le Pen might get elected.

But how bad would that be really? Is she a genuine Fascist, or did she just use her father's Fascist party to advance her own political vision?

[Beskar]

This is how Le Pen might get elected.

But how bad would that be really? Is she a genuine Fascist, or did she just use her father's Fascist party to advance her own political vision?

I think the old party was BNP-style, whilst the party reformed under her is closer to UKIP. A positive change, at least.

[LittleGrizzly]

I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else
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It took me years to figure out that is how they get you, Turkeys voting for Christmas in the fear it could be even worse.

[Elmetiacos]

I think the old party was BNP-style, whilst the party reformed under her is closer to UKIP. A positive change, at least.

It's not Hitler, it's only Putin...

[Gilrandir]

I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else.

What about fighting nazis wherever and whenever you can?

The Media and political Parties boosted Le Pen, they will deal with the result.

It is not only the media or the parties that will have to deal with the result, I'm afraid.

[Tristuskhan]

Indeed.

I was in Mongolia at that time, gave my vote to my father. The familly I lived with in the steppe listened to the radio in the morning and suddenly everyone looked at me with very strange eyes. The grandfather came by me, put his hand on my shoulder and said: Le Pen. I had to find a way to tell my father NOT to vote in my name on 2nd round. I'm fine with that and would do the same if it happens again. Voting Chirac has been a trauma for so many, I'm happy (and a bit proud) I did not.

[Brenus]

Voting Chirac has been a trauma for so many, I'm happy (and a bit proud) I did not.

I still have it here...