French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

[Arakhor]

Atheotes had votes on Renata and Pizza early on, threw some shade at Montmorency (I believe that's the term), claimed that Lewwyn might be town and Barto scum, then disappeared for 3.5 days, because of course. Half the Convention is either ill, lurking or straight-up dead.

Going to do a quick catch up

A wild NAC appears! (I have never played Pokémon in my life.)

I wish that we had fewer lurkers. It just feels like all the wagons are on the inactive people (or less active people), and there are too many of them to sort through. Haven't seen anything yet that makes me want to change my vote however.

Well, you're the only one who can change your vote, so it seems a bit silly to complain and then not do that.

[Arakhor]

Csargo spent several posts on fluff and non-voting on Day 1, voted for Snerk for protecting Jabbz, discussed yesterday's voting a bit more, then voted for Autolycus and then NAC. I get a townish vibe from him, to be fair.

Choxorn joke-voted for Monstr, commented on ATPG being ATPG, then voted for Csargo and had a bunch of nonsense stuff. Then he had three good posts (556, 559 and 565), proving that he is still much better at this than me. I would like to think that Choxorn is town and, so far, it doesn't look like I'll be disappointed.

[Dp101]

Atheotes had votes on Renata and Pizza early on, threw some shade at Montmorency (I believe that's the term), claimed that Lewwyn might be town and Barto scum, then disappeared for 3.5 days, because of course. Half the Convention is either ill, lurking or straight-up dead.



A wild NAC appears! (I have never played Pokémon in my life.)



Well, you're the only one who can change your vote, so it seems a bit silly to complain and then not do that.

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

[Choxorn]

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

[Arakhor]

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

Well, it is in as much as people often get less focussed and take their collective eye off the ball. Killing scum is always good, of course, but lots of cleared townies can sometimes lead to sheeping, which is not good.

[Dp101]

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

I mean, it is nice indeed to have gotten so many mafia so far, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to really lead anywhere afterwards. When mafia die so early, combined with the faction setup, the amount of spew you can get out of them is minimal at best.

[NotACop]

Here's my note from doing a quick read of the game, including my vote for today. Could seem like I'm getting lynched today, which I'm not surprised by, as people know me as an active town player and a lurking scum player. But at least I have done something now lol.

townies:
Manasi
Zack
Askthepizzaguy

towards town:
Montmorency
Renata
atheotes
seireikhaan
Snerk
Choxorn

mildly towny:
Arakhor
Sooh
Lewwyn
Csargo

no feel either way(based on amount of town reads, I'm fine seeing lynch go here):
BSmith(was voted by Kagemusha D1 near some time before EOD, while he was a somewhat viable lynch - but his own vote on Manasi late D1 seemed reasoned in a suspicious way)
autolycus
Al Sipsclar
El Barto

towards scum:
Dp101 - dislike the #245 read on Jabbz "Jabbz feels really stilted but that's normal for him". Weird to notice someone seems stilted, wanting to address it, and then nullifying it by saying it's normal for someone. Why mention it at all then?
+ #281 "I want to call this scummy, but I know that Jabbz is perfectly capable of being this awkward as town." while he quotes a bad post from Jabbz where Jabbz unvotes and complains about actually having to find a real vote now.
It does look good that he voted Jabbz at last minutes of d1 EOD over Manasi, so that makes me hesitate a bit. But Jabbz seemed like someone struggling to look towny, so wouldn't be surprised of bussing.
So I'll vote Dp101. Not all sure on this, fwiw - but

dead scum:
Jabbz
Monstrdude
Kagemusha

dead town:
Fenn
Logic

[Dp101]

Dp101 - dislike the #245 read on Jabbz "Jabbz feels really stilted but that's normal for him". Weird to notice someone seems stilted, wanting to address it, and then nullifying it by saying it's normal for someone. Why mention it at all then?
+ #281 "I want to call this scummy, but I know that Jabbz is perfectly capable of being this awkward as town." while he quotes a bad post from Jabbz where Jabbz unvotes and complains about actually having to find a real vote now.
It does look good that he voted Jabbz at last minutes of d1 EOD over Manasi, so that makes me hesitate a bit. But Jabbz seemed like someone struggling to look towny, so wouldn't be surprised of bussing.
So I'll vote Dp101. Not all sure on this, fwiw - but

The 245 post was made because I wanted to avoid a potential mislynch, as I had not seen anything alignment indicative in his play so far and I've played with him more than the majority of people here. Sure, in the end, it was the wrong move, but I felt that I had to say something at that juncture as I had just seen him get mislynched D1 on another site after behaving in a similar pattern. Same goes for 281, that kind of half-joking self deprecating style of post is well within his town range, and I again felt I needed to note for others that a post like that did not mean that he had to be scum. Do you have any other questions?

[NotACop]

The 245 post was made because I wanted to avoid a potential mislynch, as I had not seen anything alignment indicative in his play so far and I've played with him more than the majority of people here. Sure, in the end, it was the wrong move, but I felt that I had to say something at that juncture as I had just seen him get mislynched D1 on another site after behaving in a similar pattern. Same goes for 281, that kind of half-joking self deprecating style of post is well within his town range, and I again felt I needed to note for others that a post like that did not mean that he had to be scum. Do you have any other questions?

those weren't questions, was simply stating my reasoning.
seeing el barto's way of jumping on my wagon right now and his response when asked into opinion of my case post makes me feel he'd be a fine lynch.
vote: el barto

He ‘clarifies’ it saying that it's the ‘more fun’ option, which takes any seriousness out of it.

this is a non-answer to what he thinks of my post. he just comments that my case doesn't look serious, not what it means for his impression of my alignment.

[Csargo]

Here's my note from doing a quick read of the game, including my vote for today. Could seem like I'm getting lynched today, which I'm not surprised by, as people know me as an active town player and a lurking scum player. But at least I have done something now lol.

townies:
Manasi
Zack
Askthepizzaguy

towards town:
Montmorency
Renata
atheotes
seireikhaan
Snerk
Choxorn

mildly towny:
Arakhor
Sooh
Lewwyn
Csargo

no feel either way(based on amount of town reads, I'm fine seeing lynch go here):
BSmith(was voted by Kagemusha D1 near some time before EOD, while he was a somewhat viable lynch - but his own vote on Manasi late D1 seemed reasoned in a suspicious way)
autolycus
Al Sipsclar
El Barto

towards scum:
Dp101 - dislike the #245 read on Jabbz "Jabbz feels really stilted but that's normal for him". Weird to notice someone seems stilted, wanting to address it, and then nullifying it by saying it's normal for someone. Why mention it at all then?
+ #281 "I want to call this scummy, but I know that Jabbz is perfectly capable of being this awkward as town." while he quotes a bad post from Jabbz where Jabbz unvotes and complains about actually having to find a real vote now.
It does look good that he voted Jabbz at last minutes of d1 EOD over Manasi, so that makes me hesitate a bit. But Jabbz seemed like someone struggling to look towny, so wouldn't be surprised of bussing.
So I'll vote Dp101. Not all sure on this, fwiw - but

dead scum:
Jabbz
Monstrdude
Kagemusha

dead town:
Fenn
Logic

I can't even...

[Renata]

I can't even...

I know. NAC's post is horrible.

It's probably just him and Sooh. There is no excuse whatsoever for townreading her after that incredibly awkward "we must be close to eliminating the royalists, wow!" post at start of day, that being her ONLY post today.

[NotACop]

forgot ending my sentence on voting dp101.
should had said "but he's my best guess and also the more fun one(as his vote on Jabbz is counter intuitive for him being scum)."

[NotACop]

will format correctly
vote: Dp101

[NotACop]

I mean, it is nice indeed to have gotten so many mafia so far, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to really lead anywhere afterwards. When mafia die so early, combined with the faction setup, the amount of spew you can get out of them is minimal at best.

We'll see about that ;) at least, my vote on you is based on your own comments to a flipped scum

[NotACop]

no one around it seems. you can have some music

[Manasi]

Aw dude I love that song.

[Arakhor]

However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

It does and I agree with you, especially in a game with attrition as high as it is right now. All I can say is that I wasn't really participating and I should have been, so I've been making up for it now.

[Zack]

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

What do you mean? Two more wolves were killed last night. The first dead wolf always opens the game up, sooner the better.

[Zack]

It just feels like the comment about how brutal it is towards the royalists is something that scum is more likely to say compared to town. Or rather, phrasing it as brutality rather than as something to be celebrated. I know I've made similar tonal slips in the past as mafia.

I mean, it is nice indeed to have gotten so many mafia so far, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to really lead anywhere afterwards. When mafia die so early, combined with the faction setup, the amount of spew you can get out of them is minimal at best.

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.