French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Unvote, Vote:Sooh

[Manasi]

why am i still on NAC

feelsbadman

Unvote

[Dp101]

Hello again everyone, and welcome back to day two of "The Joys of Lynching". Last time we nabbed ourselves a royalist, an excellent start. I'm going to go ahead this round and Vote: Dp101. Now, I've played my share as mafia in the past, and especially with results on death, I can tell you that DP's vote at the end of the day doesn't look great to me. Some might call it a sealing vote for a royalist, but to me, that looks like a good old fashioned, meaningless late bus to try and give some cover.

If it is solely the vote timing that worries me, I made that vote a good 5 minutes after I woke up, there was no tactical reasoning behind making it then.

[Csargo]

Here's my note from doing a quick read of the game, including my vote for today. Could seem like I'm getting lynched today, which I'm not surprised by, as people know me as an active town player and a lurking scum player. But at least I have done something now lol.

townies:
Manasi
Zack
Askthepizzaguy

towards town:
Montmorency
Renata
atheotes
seireikhaan
Snerk
Choxorn

mildly towny:
Arakhor
Sooh
Lewwyn
Csargo

no feel either way(based on amount of town reads, I'm fine seeing lynch go here):
BSmith(was voted by Kagemusha D1 near some time before EOD, while he was a somewhat viable lynch - but his own vote on Manasi late D1 seemed reasoned in a suspicious way)
autolycus
Al Sipsclar
El Barto

towards scum:
Dp101 - dislike the #245 read on Jabbz "Jabbz feels really stilted but that's normal for him". Weird to notice someone seems stilted, wanting to address it, and then nullifying it by saying it's normal for someone. Why mention it at all then?
+ #281 "I want to call this scummy, but I know that Jabbz is perfectly capable of being this awkward as town." while he quotes a bad post from Jabbz where Jabbz unvotes and complains about actually having to find a real vote now.
It does look good that he voted Jabbz at last minutes of d1 EOD over Manasi, so that makes me hesitate a bit. But Jabbz seemed like someone struggling to look towny, so wouldn't be surprised of bussing.
So I'll vote Dp101. Not all sure on this, fwiw - but

dead scum:
Jabbz
Monstrdude
Kagemusha

dead town:
Fenn
Logic

I can't even...

[seireikhaan]

If it is solely the vote timing that worries me, I made that vote a good 5 minutes after I woke up, there was no tactical reasoning behind making it then.

Well not to be the bearer of bad news, but the timing speaks for itself. Even if this was a rock solid stroke of logic, it wouldn't mean a whole lot because the actual vote speaks a heckuva lot louder.

[Dp101]

Well not to be the bearer of bad news, but the timing speaks for itself. Even if this was a rock solid stroke of logic, it wouldn't mean a whole lot because the actual vote speaks a heckuva lot louder.

So what, because the EOD happens to be about 15 minutes after I wake up on a weekday you have concluded that I have to be mafia since that's the only reason I would vote that then?

[Choxorn]

I disagree with this. The former part at least.

What makes you disagree with it? Are you also in Renata and Monstr's faction and got a different impression from Monstr's posts?

With this post I increase my total postcount by 50% (not even you can do that) so I'm giving you a lot of material to analyse.

That's extremely disingenuous, and you know it. 4 sentences isn't a lot of material to analyze.

vote: NotACop

Wow, such sheeping.

He ‘clarifies’ it saying that it's the ‘more fun’ option, which takes any seriousness out of it.

You're criticizing someone for not being serious enough?

Hello? Kettle? This is Pot, I'm calling to tell you that you're black.

You're posting from a phone?

unvote

FishFingerOfSuspicion: Arakhor

That stopped being even remotely meaningful years ago, and you know it.

Also, unvoting and not revoting but throwing an FoS out? What are you trying to pull here?

[Lewwyn]

Did anybody post anything about Jabbz QT activity?

Anyway. Not much to report on. Quick summary of posts with relevant content:

(paraphrasing from QT like this is within the rules, right?)

Mentioned that he didn't want to argue with Zack this game.

Says he'd might want to vote for Monty is he was in a different faction.

Claims Monty is leaning on him in public. Monty says this isn't the case. Jabbz makes excuse for being inaccurate.

Town lean on Renata. Thinks Ranata-Pizza are faction buddies.

Doesn't like Zack's defence of Manasi.

Jabbz then goes schtum for the rest of the day.

You missed something. In response to a comment I made about possibly 1 royalist per faction, Jabbz made a point to suggest that the royalists were spread randomly throughout the groups and that there were multiple royalists in some groups.

[Lewwyn]

like, you're going to just cherry-pick that one post and completely ignore the huge post where he reads the entire game?

he's done a HELL of a lot more than you

I don't think El Barto was cherry picking. I also think that Nac's huge post does not really equate to a lot. He didn't read the whole game... He gave a list of people without any real reasons as to why he felt that way. I feel like that is very easy for scum to do. I mean he literally listed who was dead.

Now he didn't just end there so I'm not voting for him now. His activity has continued which is a good sign.

[Lewwyn]

Now, hostility escalated quite quickly, defensively, deflectively.

Vote: El Barto

[Montmorency]

You didn't consider Manasi or Arakhor a better option, then?

Manasi was contested by Renata, of course. She aggressively came out in her favor, remember? Arakhor, because I didn't really want to lynch Arakhor.

I'm not really a fan of all this nudging of others you were doing, it sounds like what a Royalist might do if he wanted to subtly push others to save his scummates without getting his hands dirty, and it would have given you the option of waiting as long as you could to see if your vote would make a difference in saving Jabbz.

thatstheidea.aiff

I disagree with this. The former part at least.

On what grounds, Bart?


I can't say I'm disheartened by bloods keeping at DP. Also heartening in that, if I had to lynch one person from my faction, it would be Khaan, so m/t or w/v is a nice scenario.

[Manasi]

not sheeping I swear omg

Vote: El Barto

Gn threado.

[Choxorn]

I don't think El Barto was cherry picking. I also think that Nac's huge post does not really equate to a lot. He didn't read the whole game... He gave a list of people without any real reasons as to why he felt that way. I feel like that is very easy for scum to do. I mean he literally listed who was dead.

Now he didn't just end there so I'm not voting for him now. His activity has continued which is a good sign.

Now, hostility escalated quite quickly, defensively, deflectively.

Vote: El Barto

I don't follow your logic here at all. First you don't want to vote for El Barto, then you do, just a few minutes later? And I'm having trouble understanding what that first sentence is saying.

What changed to make you shift so suddenly?

Manasi was contested by Renata, of course. She aggressively came out in her favor, remember? Arakhor, because I didn't really want to lynch Arakhor.

Why?

thatstheidea.aiff

[Dp101]

not sheeping I swear omg

Vote: El Barto

Gn threado.

ditto
Vote: El Barto

[Zack]

I don't follow your logic here at all. First you don't want to vote for El Barto, then you do, just a few minutes later? And I'm having trouble understanding what that first sentence is saying.

What changed to make you shift so suddenly?

I think he was more attacking NAC than defending Tak.

[Montmorency]

Help us, @Askthepizzaguy

[Choxorn]

I think he was more attacking NAC than defending Tak.

I guess, but I'm still struggling to see how his second post logically follows from his first post. Maybe I'm just not interpreting what he said correctly.

[Csargo]

Did anyone ever post about the Populist activities last night?

[Montmorency]

Did anyone ever post about the Populist activities last night?

Zack says tomorrow.

[Choxorn]

Did anyone ever post about the Populist activities last night?

I don't think anyone posted about any of their activities, other than to claim responsibility for the vig kills.

[Montmorency]

I don't think anyone posted about any of their activities, other than to claim responsibility for the vig kills.

Pizza

I assigned Al to kill Monstrdude. I was hoping that particular choice would be unpredictable, so the vig wouldn't be anticipated, and even if it was, it wouldn't be blocked by a roleblocker, only protected by some other faction.

I named Kagemusha as the one to protect me, because I figured there would be a chance some action would be taken against me that night. I wanted to live to tell about it.

I used a watch on Al, who had been trending up for me anyway.

[Csargo]

I don't think anyone posted about any of their activities, other than to claim responsibility for the vig kills.

That's something.

[Zack]

Zack says tomorrow.

No I didn't.

[Lewwyn]

I don't follow your logic here at all. First you don't want to vote for El Barto, then you do, just a few minutes later? And I'm having trouble understanding what that first sentence is saying.

What changed to make you shift so suddenly?

No shift. First post is an impression of Zack's perception of NAC and my opinions on NAC.

Second post my reading of El Barto.

I also reread the last 4 pages in between those posts so that may account for what you're seeing in regards towards El Barto. I posted first with him as null, went back and read before commenting on El Barto.

[Choxorn]

Ah. Now I understand. That makes sense, I've done things like that before. My bad for misinterpreting your posts.

[Al Sipsclar]

Arrêtez les suspects habituels!

khaan town for calling out Jabbz
ATPG for breaking the tie with Jabbz and suggesting to vig Monstr
lewwyn for disagreeing with Jabbz an being first on his wagon
Renata
Manasi
Zack

Monty for in the thread work and claiming Logic vig
BSmith for being voted over Jabbz by Kage
choxorn for putting in work

Arakhor for showing some work
NAC lean town for reads post
Csargo - tone
Atheotes - tone
Snerk - Monty putting in a good word and Renata conveying Monstr spew. Otherwise, he's just un sale collaborationniste avec Jabbz.

Sooh - null
El Barto - nul et non avenu

Autolycus - counterwagoning on BSmith. However, Zack wants him to live.

Dp101 - for bussing Jabbz at the last moment

Vote: Dp101

[Dp101]

WHat the hell do you want me to say? I woke up 5 minutes before EOD, saw that my faction mate was second and that they made a post I didn't think they would make as mafia, and voted the counterwagon! Seriously, do you lot expect me to vote in my sleep or something? Cause every single one of these scumreads is focused on when I voted, which was entirely due to out of game factors like where I live.

[Al Sipsclar]

You didn't have to vote. Heck, you even didn't have to wake up. Honnête citoyens are fast asleep at that ungodly hour.

[Dp101]

You didn't have to vote. Heck, you even didn't have to wake up. Honnête citoyens are fast asleep at that ungodly hour.

So what you are saying is that I would be less scummy if I didn't try? Of course I had to vote, a mislynch was in danger of occuring. Should I have just sat back and done nothing? And besides (aned @Lewwyn can confirm this in the games we have played together), I never bus, and have defended my teammates in even the most impossible of situations. Why would I vote my scumbuddy when things were eminently swingable on D1?

[Dp101]

Oh, and voting the other wagon when the wagons are W/W on D1 last game does not count as bussing.