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    A quick summation of the CBO's report on TrumpCare:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...insured-236016

    Too bad if you're poor...

    I would anticipate a lot of pushback from people up for midterm elections.
    The Republican fog machine wails that the report does not take into account the "measures yet to come" which will make it all better.
    Possibly true but the CBO evaluates policy enacted, not hypothetical policies that may or may not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    A quick summation of the CBO's report on TrumpCare:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...insured-236016

    Too bad if you're poor...

    I would anticipate a lot of pushback from people up for midterm elections.
    The Republican fog machine wails that the report does not take into account the "measures yet to come" which will make it all better.
    Possibly true but the CBO evaluates policy enacted, not hypothetical policies that may or may not exist.
    The GOP malfed this one up. They all ran against Obamacare, but assumed Hillary would win and they would not have to DO anything because few changes if any would pass by a margin that was veto-proof.

    So they DID nada to get ready for their big policy change effort. Now they are playing catch up and looking a little foolish.
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    So can we talk about how the Trump administration fired a bunch of federal employees and didn't replace them?


    In a few months they will be all like "the EPA doesn't even work" when the one guy left in the office is killed when the lone printer has a malfunction
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    Bit of an Andrew Jackson moment going on. Trump is going to see his patrons in jobs and not holdovers who bear little loyalty for him. Plus, he wants to downsize some of those departments anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Bit of an Andrew Jackson moment going on. Trump is going to see his patrons in jobs and not holdovers who bear little loyalty for him. Plus, he wants to downsize some of those departments anyway.
    Genralissmo Bannon will see to it none of those positions are filled. LOL at some, it's all.

    Also Steve King is going whole hog nativist. I'm watching that very closely
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    A nice reminder that while criticizing Dear Leader, it is unproductive to dehumanize those who voted for him:

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-trump-voters/
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    More of a time to pause and reflect whether votes for all is such a great idea. One Trump voter was swayed by the "argument" he would make healthcare "better", and is now dismayed to find that the current plan the GOP has would (for her at least) make it significantly more expensive.

    Policies are complicated and often there are risks as well as downsides to any course of action. But since everything has to be rendered down to the quickest, simplest, most positive sound-bite we end up everybody saying how they will make everything great.

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