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    Then I name you an unreliable judge of character who has become accustomed to letting his news outlet do his thinking for him, with all the folly that entails.
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    I'll defend Trump if he's in the right.... He just often isn't.

    As for setting fire to our institutions, I think that's a bit hyperbolic. An incompetent like Trump is more likely to set his own hair on fire. The only "good move" of Trump's that I can readily point to was nominating Gorsuch to the SCOTUS.
    He is the logical endgame of wedge issues and Reagan republicans. I like Gorsuch, Democrats folded when the turtle didn't.

    I am just growing tired of people defending the man. He is totally unfit to hold office. The country screwed up and in a few months there will be evidence he sold out his republic to the yellow bellied reds. Hell he may not even realize he did it because of his pig headed myopia.
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    So among the terrible things the Trump Junta has done since being inaugurated is Betsy Devoss. Betsy got rich because of her Fathers pyramid scheme. Betsy used these riches to curry favor with Donald. But instead of doing the respectable thing and giving her a cushy ambassadorship, he made her Secretary of Education. Betsys qualifications being she once attended school. Betsys brother also has a merry band of mercenaries for hire. It is not really relevant here beyond my desire to further assail her character.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.97b7a0e05f11

    School choice is a term with many different meanings. Betsy meaning is "dismantle the school system"

    The public education system in America is where children learn to be Americans. We are an extremely diverse country, we need a touchstone, the school system is at least part of that touchstone. Betsy is part of a capitalist class that feeds off of division, infighting, and weak civic institutions. Gutting the public school system furthers an agenda for a very tiny minority of people.
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    So among the terrible things the Trump Junta has done since being inaugurated is Betsy Devoss. Betsy got rich because of her Fathers pyramid scheme. Betsy used these riches to curry favor with Donald. But instead of doing the respectable thing and giving her a cushy ambassadorship, he made her Secretary of Education. Betsys qualifications being she once attended school. Betsys brother also has a merry band of mercenaries for hire. It is not really relevant here beyond my desire to further assail her character.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.97b7a0e05f11

    School choice is a term with many different meanings. Betsy meaning is "dismantle the school system"

    The public education system in America is where children learn to be Americans. We are an extremely diverse country, we need a touchstone, the school system is at least part of that touchstone. Betsy is part of a capitalist class that feeds off of division, infighting, and weak civic institutions. Gutting the public school system furthers an agenda for a very tiny minority of people.
    Funnily enough, the British PM is further to the right on this than the majority of the Tory party, this being one of her pet issues. May is pretty much on the same page as Devoss, while most of the Tory party at least pay some respect to what you talk of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    School choice is a term with many different meanings. Betsy meaning is "dismantle the school system"

    The public education system in America is where children learn to be Americans. We are an extremely diverse country, we need a touchstone, the school system is at least part of that touchstone. Betsy is part of a capitalist class that feeds off of division, infighting, and weak civic institutions. Gutting the public school system furthers an agenda for a very tiny minority of people.
    I agree with much of what you said in this post and the last, so I won't quote it or respond to it- that'd be boring.

    But, I disagree here. Our public school system is a shambles and it needs disrupted. School districts everywhere are rife with corruption and waste. Teacher's unions prioritize protecting bad employees over teaching children and rewarding excellence. We spend near the top of the list per student for public schooling, yet consistently perform near the bottom. I'm ok with dismantling that system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    I agree with much of what you said in this post and the last, so I won't quote it or respond to it- that'd be boring.

    But, I disagree here. Our public school system is a shambles and it needs disrupted. School districts everywhere are rife with corruption and waste. Teacher's unions prioritize protecting bad employees over teaching children and rewarding excellence. We spend near the top of the list per student for public schooling, yet consistently perform near the bottom. I'm ok with dismantling that system.
    On the other hand, that spending is very unevenly distributed. This is exacerbated when so much of public school funding is linked to local property tax collections: money out = money in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Taking the contrarian view is not always a sign of wisdom or intelligence.
    Taking the conformist view is not always a sign of wisdom or intelligence.

    I am just growing tired of people defending the man. He is totally unfit to hold office. The country screwed up and in a few months there will be evidence he sold out his republic to the yellow bellied reds. Hell he may not even realize he did it because of his pig headed myopia.
    I, on the other hand, am long tired of people who demonizing the man, despite the glut of legitimate criticism they should be satisfied airing, and I am becoming despairing of people swallowing that demonization as god's truth.

    We have heard nothing but assertations and claims from sources that are notorious for misdirection and fabrication, yet no less than two of our once distunguishing regulars are now emulating Mcarthy!

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