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    Yeah... on second thought, the US is actually not out of the agreement. Unless they want to break international law.

    The Paris Agreement stipulates that a member cannot get out of the agreement until after 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
    Yeah... on second thought, the US is actually not out of the agreement. Unless they want to break international law.

    The Paris Agreement stipulates that a member cannot get out of the agreement until after 4 years.
    Good point, but I believe for now the admin has only ceased (or is planning to end) compliance with the non-binding elements of the treaty which the US has undertaken to date.
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    Obama not passing the pledge past congress has come to bite him in the ass, as it was not put through congress trump can pull out without consequence. It's probably the 30 billion dollarsa year Obama pledged to pay propping up other countries that made trump want to cancel it.

    Ah well at least you still have china- oh. india's no better.

    This accord has no teeth to punish divergeance, being part of it without the will to follow through is rather pointless beyond PR and Obama's pledge were prohibitively expensive both in payments and economic impact, so Trump refusing carrying out that follow through was basically inevitable.

    Doesnt help that the effect of the Paris agreement, even at 100% adheirance, is less than optimistic.

    Edit: altered the numbers as I found better info on who pays what:

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19
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    At least Trump is consistent in the use of "alternative facts":

    http://www.motherjones.com/environme...aris-agreement
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    Thank you Husar, that really cheered me up.
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    Macabre idea for two birds with one stone.

    Calculate the megatonnage needed for a series of 200m airbursts over every target of significance in North Korea to reach the target goal. Time this to coincide with a heavy precipitation weather system that crosses the NK portion of the peninsula on a West by a little north to east by a little north direction.

    1. take 2-3 degrees centigrade scale off global temperatures for 3-10 years, allowing a bridge for development of solar power.

    2. removed the current regime from NK while maintaining a DMZ suitable to assure China of it's security.


    Might be a touch heavy handed, but omelettes and eggs and all that. Also, skip any ski trips to Hokkaido for a bit.
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