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[Furunculus]

The host culture takes on aspects of the guest culture.

This is more the way i would like it to work, rather than what we see in practice.

There are three broad ways of doing things:

One extreme - normative multiculturalism with parallel communities. (Britain)
The other extreme - you are french¬!!!! with ghettoes for those that haven't become french enough. (France)
A happy medium - the melting pot - if 10% of the pop are immigrants, the natives become 10% foriegn and the immigrants 90% american. (USA)

That is obviously simplifying things greatly, but i think both Britain and France could do with a closer look at the melting pot idea.

[Pannonian]

This is more the way i would like it to work, rather than what we see in practice.

There are three broad ways of doing things:

One extreme - normative multiculturalism with parallel communities. (Britain)
The other extreme - you are french¬!!!! with ghettoes for those that haven't become french enough. (France)
A happy medium - the melting pot - if 10% of the pop are immigrants, the natives become 10% foriegn and the immigrants 90% american. (USA)

That is obviously simplifying things greatly, but i think both Britain and France could do with a closer look at the melting pot idea.

Have other non-Muslim cultures strengthened their parallel communities in the UK? AFAIK it's only the older members who are distinctively "other", and even they see themselves as guests in a host country. It's mostly been a hodgepodge fusion that existing Brits then claim is uniquely and typically British. Take out the Muslim issue, and there are hardly any cultural problems with the other cultures.

[Brenus]

That is obviously simplifying things greatly, but i think both Britain and France could do with a closer look at the melting pot idea.

So, your idea of great success is for immigrants to destroy the locals, confiscate their lands, put them in ghettos, signed whatever treaties you want as you have no intention to keep your word anyway... Interesting...
The big flaw in your reasoning is both France and England, in their own way, have adsorbed immigration waves in the past. It is not perfect, but we will do the same again.
As the idea of ghettos, I have to laugh... Problem is lack of jobs, urberisation and cuts, not "ghettos" which exists only in newspapers (and in some minds who dream to have populations to exploit), as shown in some reports from fox News that had to apologise later for them.

[Pannonian]

So, your idea of great success is for immigrants to destroy the locals, confiscate their lands, put them in ghettos, signed whatever treaties you want as you have no intention to keep your word anyway... Interesting...
The big flaw in your reasoning is both France and England, in their own way, have adsorbed immigration waves in the past. It is not perfect, but we will do the same again.
As the idea of ghettos, I have to laugh... Problem is lack of jobs, urberisation and cuts, not "ghettos" which exists only in newspapers (and in some minds who dream to have populations to exploit), as shown in some reports from fox News that had to apologise later for them.

Read up on British Pakistanis. Not opinion pieces from white liberals. Actual descriptions by British Pakistanis of what's going on. Ghettoes are forming, not from social deprivation, or British marginalisation, but from ultra conservatives keeping their culture "pure". You're a Pratchett fan. Read Thud! and his other stories that feature deep delvers. That's a pretty good description of what's going on with the ultra conservative Muslims in the UK. Going by the French scale, translated to Islam, they're extreme far right. Goodness knows why you're trying to defend them.