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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    If we're done bullying poor Dp101 we could move some votes on Auto to surprise him when he comes back!

    The Barto wagon could be juicy as well. You have my spiritual support on that.
    I'm still waiting for his reads he said he'd do in a minute.
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    I'm not allowed to laugh at concepts I find laughable?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    You think this post is, or my backpedal is?
    Your backpedal is nai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    Oh, I forgot about something critical. Vote: Csargo. It really looks like you are trying to powerwolf from my perspective, and while I may end up voting a townie who just wants to try hard, hit a scum, soar high, and then get shot down by scum, I feel like this kind of early aggressive pushing is more commonly seen from scum on this forum.
    I wish I could quit you Dp101, but I can't. It's too tempting for me to pass up.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Eh. Maybe not quite a straw man. But it's a deflection of the point that it was pretty over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    I'm not allowed to laugh at concepts I find laughable?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
    crimson_snow used wikipedia! It is super effective!
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    Also, I don't think El Barto's FoS on me is at all a genuine thought or read he has, and he should die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    Oh, I forgot about something critical. Vote: Csargo. It really looks like you are trying to powerwolf from my perspective, and while I may end up voting a townie who just wants to try hard, hit a scum, soar high, and then get shot down by scum, I feel like this kind of early aggressive pushing is more commonly seen from scum on this forum.
    Alright that's a bad move. When you start your wagon with an excuse for when the target flips villa, it probably won't be taking off any time soon. Oh and it's suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    Well shit, I didn't know. Still going to try though, but I suppose ya'll have a good excuse not to help me out.
    "Autolynchus"

    He's a good player, he's just not someone who will be in the thread a lot.

    Just something we have to adapt to him about, and he adapts to us by giving us good reads and lynching scums by putting in the effort when he has the time.

    He will be lynched without any struggle whatsoever in the early game. He's low information at this stage of the game and that's not scummy for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    Oh, I forgot about something critical. Vote: Csargo. It really looks like you are trying to powerwolf from my perspective, and while I may end up voting a townie who just wants to try hard, hit a scum, soar high, and then get shot down by scum, I feel like this kind of early aggressive pushing is more commonly seen from scum on this forum.
    I would love to see Csargo power wolf.

    I think this is townie Csargo, and not even his usual townie self. He's hungry this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    I'm still waiting for his reads he said he'd do in a minute.
    Well, I was somewhat busy having to keep up with your questioning. Overall, slight scum on you since your play here reminds me of Visor's game, mostly because of the early push. Moderate scum on Csargo since his behaviour seems uncharacteristic to me, and he didn't answer my question on his meta (or if he did I missed it). Strong town on Crimson, because tone so pure. Barto is himself, I will never learn how to read him. Jowy gets slight town, as he does bring up my meta every time he plays as town with me. I'll do the rest later, I need to eat dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    I would love to see Csargo power wolf.

    I think this is townie Csargo, and not even his usual townie self. He's hungry this game.
    This level of hunger is just insane though, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    Alright that's a bad move. When you start your wagon with an excuse for when the target flips villa, it probably won't be taking off any time soon. Oh and it's suspicious.
    It isn't an excuse, it's anticipating counter arguments ahead of time, and also showing that I actually put thought into it rather than just OMGUSing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson_snow View Post
    Also, I don't think El Barto's FoS on me is at all a genuine thought or read he has, and he should die.
    Oh, ho, ho, that is a good one. But I thought we'd ended with the jokes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    Well, I was somewhat busy having to keep up with your questioning.
    My questioning is not something that has to be responded to right now. Your hunting scums and finding townies takes precedence over my one vote on you.

    I realize that I'm a fire and you're bleeding nitroglycerin right now, so I'll suppress my triumphalism and grandstanding that would ordinarily take place if I thought I was convincingly lynching a townie here as a wolf.

    I will just say, calmly, you continue to look bad to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    This level of hunger is just insane though, imo.
    Askthepizzaguy has already explained about his weird mealtimes.
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    I kind of want to say that a wolf just...doesn't scum read the people attacking him, and town read the person saying to stop bullying him. It's so binary and level 1 and bad.

    Also don't read me on tone.

    I am as pure as a newborn child tone-wise and will bathe in the blood of town if I get written off due to it generally.

    Town read me on process/content, fine, fine, but tone is both easy and lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Barto View Post
    Oh, ho, ho, that is a good one. But I thought we'd ended with the jokes?
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    Askthepizzaguy has already explained about his weird mealtimes.
    Apparently not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    This level of hunger is just insane though, imo.
    Askthepizzaguy has already explained about his weird mealtimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson_snow View Post
    I kind of want to say that a wolf just...doesn't scum read the people attacking him, and town read the person saying to stop bullying him. It's so binary and level 1 and bad.

    Also don't read me on tone.

    I am as pure as a newborn child tone-wise and will bathe in the blood of town if I get written off due to it generally.

    Town read me on process/content, fine, fine, but tone is both easy and lazy.
    That's the one thing that pushed you out of null, is the one post I quoted.

    Otherwise I'm feeling like you're normally a wall of pokerface with excellent tactics on both sides of the ball, to mix metaphors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    My questioning is not something that has to be responded to right now. Your hunting scums and finding townies takes precedence over my one vote on you.

    I realize that I'm a fire and you're bleeding nitroglycerin right now, so I'll suppress my triumphalism and grandstanding that would ordinarily take place if I thought I was convincingly lynching a townie here as a wolf.

    I will just say, calmly, you continue to look bad to me.
    I don't think your behavior with regards to DP really meshes. The pressure on him has been multi-faceted and constant, and he's had no time or room to do anything but respond to it. I can't actually tell if it's malicious or not, but it feels unfair, if nothing else. This is the kind of bullying that makes people look worse even as town when there is no space for them to actually be town.

    He could be a wolf! I just think it's hard to tell when people treat someone like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    Well, I was somewhat busy having to keep up with your questioning. Overall, slight scum on you since your play here reminds me of Visor's game, mostly because of the early push. Moderate scum on Csargo since his behaviour seems uncharacteristic to me, and he didn't answer my question on his meta (or if he did I missed it). Strong town on Crimson, because tone so pure. Barto is himself, I will never learn how to read him. Jowy gets slight town, as he does bring up my meta every time he plays as town with me. I'll do the rest later, I need to eat dinner.
    I don't even know my own meta, I constantly change for my own entertainment. So I can't answer your question. It'd be better to ask others about my meta than me tbh, because I just play the game. I don't analyze myself, that's just pointless.

    ATPG is scum until he is lynched and flips town imo.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dp101 View Post
    This level of hunger is just insane though, imo.
    Thx.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    That's the one thing that pushed you out of null, is the one post I quoted.

    Otherwise I'm feeling like you're normally a wall of pokerface with excellent tactics on both sides of the ball, to mix metaphors.
    You are going gaga, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    ATPG is scum until he is lynched and flips town imo.
    Why are you not voting for him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson_snow View Post
    I don't think your behavior with regards to DP really meshes. The pressure on him has been multi-faceted and constant, and he's had no time or room to do anything but respond to it. I can't actually tell if it's malicious or not, but it feels unfair, if nothing else. This is the kind of bullying that makes people look worse even as town when there is no space for them to actually be town.

    He could be a wolf! I just think it's hard to tell when people treat someone like this.
    That's why when he has time, he needs to post those reads.

    How to read dp101 at this point is to allow him to do his town-finding process and wolf-finding process.

    I'm not going to delay my reactions in real time, but he should be the one prioritizing the town-finding on his end, and so forth. It's a choice not to do the reads you say you'll do in a minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson_snow View Post
    I don't think your behavior with regards to DP really meshes. The pressure on him has been multi-faceted and constant, and he's had no time or room to do anything but respond to it. I can't actually tell if it's malicious or not, but it feels unfair, if nothing else. This is the kind of bullying that makes people look worse even as town when there is no space for them to actually be town.

    He could be a wolf! I just think it's hard to tell when people treat someone like this.
    I somehow skipped over some of my thoughts here.

    "I don't think your behavior with regards to DP really meshes with you thinking he is someone capable of clearing himself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Barto View Post
    You are going gaga, I see.
    I appreciate a solid process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson_snow View Post
    I don't think your behavior with regards to DP really meshes. The pressure on him has been multi-faceted and constant, and he's had no time or room to do anything but respond to it. I can't actually tell if it's malicious or not, but it feels unfair, if nothing else. This is the kind of bullying that makes people look worse even as town when there is no space for them to actually be town.

    He could be a wolf! I just think it's hard to tell when people treat someone like this.
    I like the last two sentences. They're the best. 5 stars. A++ 100%
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Barto View Post
    You are going gaga, I see.
    I appreciate a solid process.
    That's why you keep this poker face of yours.
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