XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Sooh]

Alright.

Theatrics may perhaps be excitement to play after not having done so for a while. Same with the excessive ISOing.

You can be town, but I reserve the right to tinfoil at any moment in time. I still feel eeeeehhhhh, but I'll let it go. Who knows, perhaps the scums think our thunderdome is exciting enough to let us both live to fight each other another day :P

[Dp101]

Maybe Pizza is town after all, I dunno.

[Sooh]

Maybe Pizza is town after all, I dunno.

Yeah. It seems kind of like his annoyed "Now I'm being suspected for ridiculous reasons again" personality.

[Csargo]

Pizza is town, and if you disagree I'll fite you all!

Nah, but really, pretty sure he's town.

[Sooh]

Pizza is town, and if you disagree I'll fite you all!

Nah, but really, pretty sure he's town.

Everybody has their process. If I didn't have a process with him I'd never feel comfortable calling him that this game.

[Csargo]

Everybody has their process. If I didn't have a process with him I'd never feel comfortable calling him that this game.

Yes.

Why are you not scum? Or are you scum? Which one is it?

[Sooh]

Yes.

Why are you not scum? Or are you scum? Which one is it?

Pls don't ask me to analyze myself and defend myself without accusations. I can't deal with that again.

I'm not scum. I'll try to show you over the next day, little by little.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is what I'm looking at;

Now that a full day has completed, and we have a flip, my process is to imagine what I'd be doing as scum in this game (which is to barely meet expectations or happily not meet them), that's in-general. Then I look for specific behavior problems. People who meet expectations and aren't lock town can be scum having a good game. But I still don't lynch there for no reason. So, who is meeting or exceeding expectations well? Who is meeting their average expectations or less, or is otherwise bad for specific reasons? This is what I think about that.





Askthepizzaguy 141
As I said, and my meta should show, this is one of the towniest games I've had in a long time. That's true even if my reads are no better than throwing darts. There's more to it than that, if I decided to make this game one of the best scum games I've ever done, out of nowhere. But, that's super dangerous in a game where it's even possible that there are vigs or third parties or serial killers or cops. And it's dangerous in general because it gets me dead. And if I don't get dead, everyone will wonder why I'm not dead come endgame.

Dp101 93
This is the best thing in dp's favor right now. He may be capable of this as scum, but there are so many ways he could have taken it easier on himself, and so many ways he could have screwed things up in a much more definite manner. I still have issues with his game, but I think it's looking more and more in line with how he described his own day 1s. He's just not in his comfort zone yet. But, he's not stopping what he's doing, and questionable is the worst he ever looked. More questionable than most on day one, but it can be a false positive.

Csargo 91
Much of his iso is low-content spammy stuff, but let's be clear. This is csargo's greatest scum game of all time, or his greatest town game of all time. And given how I'm approaching d1 in the generic sense, I don't favor the former theory. I favor the latter. If he's not dead come endgame, re-assess. But never lynch him d2.

crimson_snow 66
This was a really good day for him, regardless of who he is.

Manasi 52
Manasi is within her range as wolf or town. I haven't got a true scum read on her yet, I have some worries and concerns. But she should be looked at for specific reasons. These reasons can be wrong. But if the scum team has a high-poster, it's probably this person.

Cuthillius 50
I think Cuth looks pretty solid. He's not as solid as many of my town reads but this is him at least hitting his own hurdle of towniness.

Jowy 39
Now I know better and will be able to read Jowy better in the future, and kudos to those who read him right based on his meta. Apparently he is straightforward to read, but his process is just like nails on chalkboard to me. At one point he put csargo in his town core and then voted him. This is part of the problem I have with Jowy. Now, it is still MY fault I didn't read him right. But it's gotta be understandable. Even if you know Jowy better. His process was not the same as his votes, and I always vote someone who does that, and it's usually right.

novice 35
This is within his range. I think he hit his hurdle but he's not clear.

El Barto 28
He's not particularly spammy and I have mixed feelings. That's the generics. Specifically, I think he's not clear, but even so, many of his posts look ok and I can go into why.

Sooh 26
Her d1 had slank cover so let's call it NAI until I see her day 2. Specifically, however, I take issue with her reads and the way she read both me and fredwood in particular. It has to be discussed and analyzed, you can't let that go. You don't always lynch her, but you have to examine it.

Montmorency 22
He's got enormous range and is indecipherable to read. That said, in general, he didn't do much on day 1 and I'm not convinced he's towning. I think neutral is a strong possibility. I don't want to speculate that much, because unless I have a specifically scum read on him, I don't push him. I think he can be a lynch option, but we've got better info lynches than Monty.

Champ 18
I haven't played with champ that much, but this is an improvement over his previous game. That said, for reasons given that others have noted, he'd pretty much have to step it up if he rolled scum. So, specifically, this doesn't help.

Winston Hughes 17
Winston can do more than this, but he can also have a low day 1. It's not strongly indicative. Specifically, there were several posts from him that I liked. But he's not clear.

Logic 14
He comes from a place where posting twice a round flies. This is a good day one for him. I cannot lock him townie yet, but he's a solid town read.

Fredwood 13
This is what I'm concerned with.

BSmith 2
This is normal BSmith, and definitely how he'd play it as scum. And, I might even say, I've seen much better day 1s from him.

autolycus 1
This is below what we know he's capable of. That said, it's not atypical of him. So he's not clear.


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What do you think the scums were doing on day one, if dp101 was town and csargo was town and Jowy was town? (the main lynch candidates)

Because my suspicions go to Fredwood, Sooh, and Manasi under such a metric. Not as a complete team, maybe 1 or 2 out of those 3.

You also cannot clear auto or bsmith, monty, winston, or barto, and maybe still have specific issues with dp's game despite his high post count, but I dunno. Need to re-read him again. And even those people you cannot clear, now you go through them specifically and see if you can't find more people you're not supposed to be lynching.

But I do think you back off csargo, crimson, me x1000, and even dp101 for at least 1 round. I think the day ones from all of those 4 warrant it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright.

Theatrics may perhaps be excitement to play after not having done so for a while. Same with the excessive ISOing.

You can be town, but I reserve the right to tinfoil at any moment in time. I still feel eeeeehhhhh, but I'll let it go. Who knows, perhaps the scums think our thunderdome is exciting enough to let us both live to fight each other another day :P

I am well-rested from playing games, haven't been town a ton lately, and this day one had actual substance.

If I don't have exactly this level of effort under those circumstances, you pretty much should always lynch me. Quote this post when you do.