XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Zack]

You can now post and so forth.

[Ampharos]

i'd apologize for inactivity and say to blame Darkest Dungeon but apparently everyone else is in the same boat

going to sleep, will post tomorrow. hopefully someone else shows up by then

(would vote auto here but apparently there are vote tags? and idk how they work and i cba to find out at 6 am)

[Csargo]

I'll be around later and ISO the remaining people to give my thoughts. Still think Walrein/Fredwood are the best candidates today, so I'll probably start there.
@Walrein : It's just Vote:name with bold tags around it

[autolycus]

I'll vote:walrein. I think I agree with csargo that the atpg wagon likely still contains our last scum, and dp was rubbing me the wrong way earlier. I'll be back close to end of day, and I should have time to do some actual analysis then.

[El Barto]

Mr. walrein, it certainly does not help if you ignore those accusing you.

I still maintain that we must lynch the Fredwood and Dp101 slots in our two remaining phases, and it is almost assured that we will win.

vote: Walrein (the Dp101 slot)

Cuth - Viper

In my day we called them Snakemen and they liked it.

I'll vote:walrein. I think I agree with csargo that the atpg wagon likely still contains our last scum, and dp was rubbing me the wrong way earlier. I'll be back close to end of day, and I should have time to do some actual analysis then.

Could you specify on the bolded?

[Ampharos]

Vote:autolycus

anyone around?

[Ampharos]

lolme for not refreshing

hold on reading

[Ampharos]

Mr. walrein, it certainly does not help if you ignore those accusing you.

i'm certainly not ignoring the accusations against me

at the same time, however, the accusations aren't really against ME, they're against dp. i can't really defend the actions of my predecessor because i'm not in his headspace

attempting to figure out who the last mafia is would surely be a better use of my time

[Ampharos]

curious as to what auto has done to remove himself from so many people's PoEs

tree stump claim is far from making him locktown and he certainly hasn't done enough to villaclear himself in my mind

[El Barto]

curious as to what auto has done to remove himself from so many people's PoEs

Look here for what were my reads last Tuesday.

This time I'm not doing anybody but autolycus.

D1

4 Jowy (Askthepizzaguy, El Barto, Champ, Dp101)

2 Csargo (novice, Jowy)
2 Dp101 (Manasi, Csargo)
2 El Barto (Fredwood, Sooh)
2 Montmorency (Logic, Cuthillius)

1 Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency)
1 Champ (crimson_snow)
1 Logic (Winston Hughes)
1 novice (autolycus)
1 Sooh (BSmith)

The mafia all make a point of voting for town (to avoid a CFD that might see one of them accidentally lynched) and not voting with each other. auto voted for novice, a scummo.
Incidentally, your slot voted for the lynch of a townie.

D2

6 Askthepizzaguy (Cuthillius, Dp101, BSmith, Fredwood, novice, Manasi)
6 novice (Askthepizzaguy, Logic, Montmorency, El Barto, Csargo, crimson_snow)

2 Manasi (Sooh, Winston Hughes)

1 Csargo (GeneralHankerchief)

auto doesn't vote, all the scum evidently go on a waggon to save novice and doom atpg, whom I've quoted a page(see the EoD shenanigans with crimson_snow deciding novice was scum, Manasi making up a reason for a vote and Csargo throwing a fit.

6 Manasi (Sooh, autolycus, Winston Hughes, El Barto, novice, BSmith)

5 BSmith (Cuth, Fred, Csargo, Dp101, Monty)

1 autolycus (Manasi)
1 Csargo (Logic)

Manasi and BSmith, both of them scum, are in the lead. Manasi half-heartedly attempts to steer the vote onto auto, which, seeing their earlier behaviour, she would never have done if he was mafia (see how she never ever attempts to move the lynch onto BSmith).

auto is early in voting for Manasi when she wasn't really a waggon. It really isn't like auto to play like that.

D3

7 BSmith (Monty, Dp101, Logic, Fredwood, Cuth, Winston, Csargo)

1 Fredwood (auto)
1 novice (El Barto)

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Not Voting: novice

Not Posting: BSmith

See novice and BSmith engaging in antispew mode. autolycus actually manages to stand out by accusing another person.

So, unless autolycus is a member who consciously decides to go against the policty of the entire team, even throwing one or two under the bus on D2 and D3 (after the Mafia missed a kill on N1), he's not mafia.

[El Barto]

It is quite vexing that the final votes of Dp101 and Fredwood have always been on the same person except on Day One.

[Zack]

@Nippleman has replaced @Winston Hughes.

Do not discuss substitutions.

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Because of multiple substitutions recently, I'm extending the Day by 24 hours.

[Nippleman]

Sup scrubs.

What do I need to know?

[El Barto]

Day 6 ends in:

Would that be the new timer then?

(I edited the quote, yes)

[El Barto]

That cannot be. Blasted tags.

[El Barto]

Sup scrubs.

What do I need to know?

That you're filling in at a game where we're supposed to find one last mafioso after lynching two and vigging one between D3 and D4, that I've made some posts where I've tried to sum up the game, and that if you have the time (especially with Zack's extra 24 hours) you'd do well to read the thread. Oh, and read the rules. No editing, always bold your votes and include the word ‘vote’ when you so so.



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So this is the one…



Zack, you sneaky post-editing barstud.

[Nippleman]

That you're filling in at a game where we're supposed to find one last mafioso after lynching two and vigging one between D3 and D4, that I've made some posts where I've tried to sum up the game, and that if you have the time (especially with Zack's extra 24 hours) you'd do well to read the thread. Oh, and read the rules. No editing, always bold your votes and include the word ‘vote’ when you so so.



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So this is the one…



Zack, you sneaky post-editing barstud.

Pretty standard mafia rules then. MTGS is pretty much word for word what you said. Any one peeked town, clears, or anything of the lot? I am asking so I don't start wasting my time in my reread for suspecting someone pointless, ya know.

[El Barto]

Cuthillius was the only mechanically cleared townie, as he poisoned a mafioso, it was announced publicly, the mafioso died and Cuth was eventually killed.
Obviously, I am town… I've made a post today (on this very same page) on why I think autolycus is town, and others earlier this week on what I think of the others. Currently, as I posted last night, I think that one of Dp101 (replaced by Walrein) and Fredwood is the last remaining mafioso.

And I counsel that you disbelieve the third-party conspiracy theory. IMHO that's Zack messing with our head, and anyway he has explicitly stated in-thread that it will be announced when/if we eliminate the XCOM faction.

Also, quintessential: the Who's Posted? feature.

[Zack]

Would that be the new timer then?

(I edited the quote, yes)

No, I changed the timers to the new deadline.

[Csargo]

El Barto didn't ask Nippleman if he was scum immediately upon entrance. What is this?

[Ampharos]

Look here for what were my reads last Tuesday.

This time I'm not doing anybody but autolycus.

D1

The mafia all make a point of voting for town (to avoid a CFD that might see one of them accidentally lynched) and not voting with each other. auto voted for novice, a scummo.
Incidentally, your slot voted for the lynch of a townie.

D2

auto doesn't vote, all the scum evidently go on a waggon to save novice and doom atpg, whom I've quoted a page(see the EoD shenanigans with crimson_snow deciding novice was scum, Manasi making up a reason for a vote and Csargo throwing a fit.



Manasi and BSmith, both of them scum, are in the lead. Manasi half-heartedly attempts to steer the vote onto auto, which, seeing their earlier behaviour, she would never have done if he was mafia (see how she never ever attempts to move the lynch onto BSmith).

auto is early in voting for Manasi when she wasn't really a waggon. It really isn't like auto to play like that.

D3

See novice and BSmith engaging in antispew mode. autolycus actually manages to stand out by accusing another person.

So, unless autolycus is a member who consciously decides to go against the policty of the entire team, even throwing one or two under the bus on D2 and D3 (after the Mafia missed a kill on N1), he's not mafia.

i don't possibly see how d1 can be held against me given that you and dp were on the same wagon lol

re: auto day 2, iirc he didn't even post. don't think that's alignment indicative in either direction

re: auto day 3, there may be something to that one. i need to reread manasi's posting and see if he's spewed or if it was distancing

re: auto day 4, could still be distancing, though i'm inclined to think you're right on this one

overall: there's enough here that i'm willing to re-evaluate. which forces me to turn my attention to nips and fred

speaking of which, hi nips. you mafia?

[Ampharos]

skimmed manasi eod3 because it's a quick read

posting on auto COULD be antispew? there were 3 votes on manasi at the time, her push was for things that (as far as i can tell) are pretty NAI when auto is concerned, and she didn't push it ALL that hard

i'm not 100% confident in that read but i'm not clearing auto for it either

[El Barto]

Post #1553, quoting #1209:

Popping back in, although not for long. I really feel that Novice is a terrible lynch, mostly because Pizza's case on him really misrepresents his play thus far.

Pocket accepted.

(!)

But earlier:

El Barto, I still haven't seen you explain this: Why did you specifically call Fredwood's attention to your vote on him, but then not follow up his (intentionally scummy, according to him) response afterwards? Instead you moved on to Dp without further comment.

(post #997)

Ok, I'm awake now. I feel overall that in the ISO spam phase while I was gone, Cuth came out as towniest, with Pizza as scummiest, and Fred probably town. Maybe I'm just getting pocketed really hard by Novice/Cuth, but I can't recall a single post by either of them that seemed overly-constructed or that I actually disagreed with. Fred has good intentions/tone, even though I disagree with his conclusions he's probably good. Logic still feels excessively null to me, and I don't know how to feel about that. Pizza is IMO agenda pushing with his leaving out of good Novice posts, so Vote: Askthepizzaguy

(post #1086)

Were they defending each other?

It is too suspicious for me to let this pass untested. My vote will remain parked until the flip.

Heh, at worst I'll have been proven wrong.

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Also, this:

I don't think I have any more time for posting and analysis until about this time tomorrow. I will be reading, but for now I do think novice is the best lynch today.

Vote: Novice

The more i read on it, it looks like cuth has been pretty consistently disagreeing with pizza.

Meanwhile, I feel like I have been playing "follow the pizza." I'm agreeing with him far more often than I should be, so I think I am going to read the thread and skip his posts to see if I can form my own opinion based on what everyone else is saying to each other.

And yes, I am aware i need to put in more effort than I did in my last Org game. I will be responding to mentions, so if you need my attention specifically, that is probably the best way to do it.

There is a very good chance I won't be online again before EOD. I will try to check back and read what others post, but roght now, I am happy with where my vote is.

Follows Pizza, says he will stop doing that and reassess, finds GH very suspicious, is happy with his vote on me.

lol at winston coming out of the woodworks to lynch me glgl buddyboi

(#1196)



See? Scum attack the town but never each other. When has Dp101 actually been challenged by them? I'll do a full name search tomorrow, but the evidence is stacking up against the man.

[El Barto]

No, I changed the timers to the new deadline.

See #2086.

El Barto didn't ask Nippleman if he was scum immediately upon entrance. What is this?

Sorry! I was doing a search on novice and Dp101's posts as you see above.
@Nippleman: are you mafia?

[Nippleman]

See #2086.

Sorry! I was doing a search on novice and Dp101's posts as you see above.
@Nippleman: are you mafia?

Nope

[Ampharos]

exciting happenings while i was away

what're the odds that auto actually starts posting

nips where are you

csargo where are you

[Ampharos]

forgot fred

fred where are you

[Nippleman]

exciting happenings while i was away

what're the odds that auto actually starts posting

nips where are you

csargo where are you

2k posts to read, IRL stuff on the weekend.

[Csargo]

The only thing stopping me from voting you Walrein, is the fact that Manasi voted Dp101 on Day 1, which would give me pause on thinking you are scum. That really doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things, because I'm pretty sure she called novice scummy or something like that. Otherwise I would have already lodged my vote considering I wasn't a huge fan of Dp101 from the beginning. I've not seen much from you to make me reconsider my previous intuition about Dp101.

I plan on going back and looking at D1/D2 to see if anything sticks out to me.

[Fredwood]

I'm Here, kind of agree that POE is down to me, you, Nips and Auto, I guess,....I know I'm not scum, and I'm not convinced Auto is scum either, so I will vote either you or Nips if none of us are scum town loses for lock towning, so rip anyway. I can argue myself in and out of literally every point and counterpoint on you two though, so it will probably come down to gut feels.