Fans suggestion thread for future releases

**athanaric** · 07-23-2017, 19:46

^ Good idea.

Originally Posted by Kull

This is my area, so I'll just note that the preferred art-style is "painting". Provinces are a completely different animal since they are geographic in nature, and thus photos are the best way to represent them. But in all other cases (buildings and events) the intent is to use artwork. In some cases (ports and farms in particular) we do rely on vanilla RTW, but even there, there's a conscious effort to keep the styles similar across the whole range of building levels. So if you have an RTW graphic at L1, they'll be used all the way through to L5 (or whatever the terminating level. And they will be different by culture.

I see. Makes sense.

So I take exception to the "hodgepodge" accusation, because there isn't just a random distribution of pictures and art sprinkled everywhere. There is a theme, and we're slowly moving toward the ultimate goal, but within building types the sequences are consistent and yet still different for every culture.

It wasn't meant in a denigrating way. But surely, you can see what I mean - a consistent art style would be preferable (even though difficult to achieve considering how many different individuals of different professional and cultural backgrounds are working on this mod), in fact, IMHO, it should be one of the primary goals for any total conversion mod, such as this one.

**Kull** · 07-23-2017, 22:04

Originally Posted by athanaric

It wasn't meant in a denigrating way. But surely, you can see what I mean - a consistent art style would be preferable (even though difficult to achieve considering how many different individuals of different professional and cultural backgrounds are working on this mod), in fact, IMHO, it should be one of the primary goals for any total conversion mod, such as this one.

And that was my point, it IS a primary goal. If you could compare the 2.0 vs 2.2 versions of EB2, you'd see we made MASSIVE steps in that direction, and it remains an ongoing activity. Take a look at the small icons and you'll see the same thing. A steady move toward a common style.

**Gurkhal2** · 10-01-2017, 17:55

I've got to see the Spartan land reform now and it was, ok I suppose. Although i still think that there should have been a quest for the Koine faction in regards to the helots, and if more quests could also be done I'd love that too. :) But then again I'm a sucker for quests and stuff in this mod.

**QuintusSertorius** · 10-02-2017, 00:02

Originally Posted by Gurkhal2

I've got to see the Spartan land reform now and it was, ok I suppose. Although i still think that there should have been a quest for the Koine faction in regards to the helots, and if more quests could also be done I'd love that too. :) But then again I'm a sucker for quests and stuff in this mod.

In 2.3 both Epeiros and Ptolemaioi have "missions" relating to installing their own favoured candidate in Sparte. Not to do with the helots, though, rather exiled kinglets.

**Gurkhal2** · 10-02-2017, 15:21

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

In 2.3 both Epeiros and Ptolemaioi have "missions" relating to installing their own favoured candidate in Sparte. Not to do with the helots, though, rather exiled kinglets.

Like I said I love quests/missions in general as it adds a lot to the immersion in my experience. Will definietly try out Epeiros and the Ptolemaioi in 2.3. I'm big Philhellene in addition to a lover ot quests/missions so that should be good. :)

**mephiston** · 10-11-2017, 22:53

Hello all!

Some (probably crazy) suggestions.

Could be a good idea to implement another trait in the (selfish,unselfish/optimistic,pessimistic) group? I'm thinking about the newly added lazy/dutiful, maybe, which are relative to the personality rather than related to lifestile or character development... This will also restore the balance in numbers with the (sharp,dull/charismatic,uncharismatic/vigorous,languorous) group.

I don't know if this already comes into play, but is it possible to influence the acquisition of a certain trait depending on the region (and not only the settlement)? I am referring for example to something like the "Under the Weather": an increased chance in alpine regions during winter, and maybe in desert regions during summer could be interesting IMO!

Talking about loyalty, could be a "short reign penalty" possible? Looking at e.g. Seleucid history we can see how each basileus had to struggle against potential claimants to the throne; and in general the years after the death of a basileus were really chaotic! So I was thinking about a decrease in loyalty right after the death of a faction leader. Maybe only for some factions, though, and with some conditions related to the number of controlled territories.

I haven't played the Ptolemaioi (waiting for the 2.3) and I don't have a copy of the game at hand for the moment, so I can't check; but are there some unique bonuses related to the flooding of the Nile? Maybe a boost to agriculture higher than normal.

Probably something else is going to come to my mind in the next days, but for now this is it.

**mephiston** · 10-22-2017, 16:17

Okay, now I delved deep into the 2.3 files and I noticed the Seleukid pretender revolt script, along with some other really interesting stuff. I suppose my previous suggestions aren't valid anymore.